Talk:List of truck manufacturers
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Running in place
editSince there are arguments on both sides, what do people think about "sourcing" the manufacturers? By where the trucks are built, or where they're sold, or where the parent company is HQd? I tend toward where they're built, but... TREKphiler hit me ♠ 16:12, 24 December 2008 (UTC)
I am strongly in favor of each company only listed once. Lists such as this have great potential to become very large, therefore, I think every effort should be made to keep them from getting any longer than they need be. For companies (do any exist?) where no production takes place in the HQ country, I think it gets trickier as to where to place the company. Many of these companies have long histories, and if production ever took place in the HQ country, that should be enough to decide where to list the company. Since HQs move outside of countries less often than production does, I think listing by HQ country would provide a more stable option.
Using cars as an example, I would count Volvo as HQed in Sweden even though it is owned by Ford. If one used the parent company's HQ country, every time there was a new parent company in a new home contry, a new entry would be needed. Again with cars, (I am much more familar with cars than trucks) I would count Lexus as Japanese regardless of where the HQ is or where they are built or sold; I still considered Chryslers as US even when owned by DaimlerChrysler. Generally, once a nationality is established I think there is rarely a need to change it. Examples of exceptions would be if both the HQ and production closed in 1 country and moved to another (Studebaker comes to mind) or the location of the HQ/factory became part of another country due to border changes (the manufacturers in Alsace after WWI). So what is the nationality of the truck generally considered to be?
Listing companies by where the trucks are sold would result in a plethora of entries. Hino or Isuzu trucks are probably sold in a huge number of countries, for example.SimonX (talk) 18:24, 20 January 2009 (UTC)
Brexit consequence
editplease insert new section, United Kingdom and Commonwealth.
because UK is no longer "" Europe"" anymore but British Islands or sth Wikistallion (talk) 11:47, 9 December 2020 (UTC)
What is the scope of content?
editHello all, I have several questions that I'd like to clarify.
- First, as noted in the wiki page on Trucks in American English there is a difference between trucks and tractors, where tractors pull a trailer and trucks carry a load (in general). I'd like to put a note on the top of the page to clarify that.
- Next, is this page intended to list all manufacturers that every existed or only current ones? For example - the page of List_of_American_truck_manufacturers is displaying everything that ever existed... which for this page can get unweidly and out of control... but I don't know. Please see what I did in the India region section, I added MAN Trucks but crossed them out with a note that says they left in 2018. What do you all think of this?
- What to do with sub-pages? As mentioned above there are already pages that list truck manufacturers for regions, we shouldn't duplicate rather link to that page.
- Finally, I don't think we should include "body builders". For example, a truck manufacturer DAF, International, Peterbilt, etc. sells a chassis and the body builder puts a fire engine body on it. I'm not reducing their signficance, but in the United States this company is not legally considered the manufacturer but rather a "body builder".
I look forward to your thoughts and discussion. HominyGrits007 (talk) 00:57, 24 July 2021 (UTC)
- I don't think the last sentence of the first paragraph of Trucks is accurate as written. It says "formally a "straight truck"" but the reference is to the ATA, not any government agency. The USDOT says "commonly known as a straight truck" (top of page 3). Illinois (state) DOT has definitions starting on page four. "Truck: Every motor vehicle designed, used or maintained primarily for the transportation of property". "Truck Tractor: Every motor vehicle designed and used primarily for drawing other vehicles...". They also use "Farm Tractor and "Road Tractor". I'm guessing different states have different definitions and US definitions are mush. The idea of a "formally" doesn't hold water unless you say whose "formal" it is.
- Edit in: Australian Design Rule, Irish Road Safety Authority, and UK Department for Transport definitions, just for fun.
- I agree that listing "body builders" is just impossible. In the US I don't think any HD truck manufacturer builds bodies (or even fifth-wheels), they make the chassis and any company or garage can throw something on it. Sammy D III (talk) 18:07, 24 July 2021 (UTC)