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China or People's Republic of China
editI noticed the few edits concerning what to use as the country for Shanghai. User:Hydrogen Iodide want to use People's Republic of China and User:Joowwww want to use China. Joowwww said "ROC also claims the mainland, 'China' is used when in a purely geographic context" to justify the change back to China. I would like to discuss this issue on the talk page. Hopefully we can reach consensus on this issue.
I support the use of People's Republic of China as that is the country that is currently in power in Shanghai. While Taiwan (Republic of China) does claim ownership of all of mainland China, their government is only in power on the island of Taiwan. Second, internationally the most common reference to mainland China is the People's Republic of China and the most common reference to Taiwan is the Republic of China. I see no problem with using "People's Republic of China." Leitmanp (talk | contributions) 01:36, 24 August 2008 (UTC)
- I agree with you completely. However, this has been a major issue on Talk:China and the reason I prefer just "China" here is the same reason as why the PRC article isn't at China and the ROC article isn't at Taiwan, as per common usage. There was no consensus to move the pages mainly because of the NPOV assertion that both governments claim each other's land area, and saying that places like Shanghai is in the PRC and Taipei is in the ROC would be taking sides with one particular government's views. In a political context, it would be right to say PRC or ROC, but in a purely geographical context such as this article it is better NPOV to just say "China", referring to the land area, not the government. --Joowwww (talk) 12:17, 24 August 2008 (UTC)
- But the problem is that China refers to Chinese culture/civilization and not the land area. How about replacing "China" with "mainland China." It is not political and does not refer to the culture. It only refers to the geographic land area of China. Is this okay? Leitmanp (talk | contributions) 19:50, 24 August 2008 (UTC)
- Mainland China is fine, although "China" is technically correct as a name for the land area of mainland China and the island of Taiwan, as both governments (the People's Republic of China and the Republic of China both claim the mainland and Taiwan, and consider themselves to be the sole authority over all of China. --Joowwww (talk) 10:01, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
- Sorry about this late reply. So, are you saying that "Mainland China" is okay to use in the lead (the "although" makes it sound like you are contradicting yourself)? If it is okay, go ahead and change it. Leitmanp (talk | contributions) 21:52, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
Move discussion in progress
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Shanghai World Financial Center no longer has world's highest observation deck
editIn the "Notes" section next to Shanghai World Financial Center, it states, "Used to be the tallest building in China, and contains the highest observation deck in the world". It no longer has the highest observation deck. The links used to confirm that were last accessed in 2008. When the new observation deck on the 148th floor of the Burj Khalifa was opened in October 2014 theirs received the distinction as highest observation deck in the world http://www.businessinsider.com/dubais-burj-khalifa-observation-deck-2014-10 so I will delete the now incorrect info. Slinkybinky (talk) 20:58, 22 August 2015 (UTC)
There is an article for Chong Hing Finance Center, but this list seems to have two entries with two similarly-named buildings. ---Another Believer (Talk) 13:11, 11 December 2015 (UTC)
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Lede needs edit
editThe lede appears to be contradicting itself (by implication). Either the Shanghai Tower IS the tallest building in the PRC or it will be once completed. It is claimed that the exterior of the tower was completed a year ago (in 2015) but that as of March 2016 the interior is still under construction. If the exterior is "complete" then it includes all external antennae, lighting and other equipment on the roof which could raise the "official" height if it isn't yet constructed/installed. So, the issue is possibly a technical one - if some other building CURRENTLY is taller. I'm in the camp which believes the height should be measured as both the height above ground level of the highest occupied floor and also of the tallest (radio) mast, but that buildings are about people and if one measure is used it should be the occupied floor height...or perhaps "occupiable" would be a better term. This should exclude any maintenance "shanty" above the office/residential/commercial space...Could someone clarify the lede's last paragraph and remove the repetitive material? ThanksAbitslow (talk) 20:56, 1 May 2016 (UTC)
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