Talk:List of state parties of the Democratic Party (United States)
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editThis is the beginning of an effort to declutter the main article. Capitalismojo (talk) 19:48, 25 May 2014 (UTC)
There has been a question as to whether this article might run afoul that guidance. A quick look shows that it does not.
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A look at the article shows that none of these apply to this article. Capitalismojo (talk) 18:23, 4 June 2014 (UTC)
- Since there is now an AFD running about this list-article, at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of state parties of the Democratic Party (United States), which takes precedence over any discussion here, I think continued discussion should be there, not here. Unless/until the AFD is closed. But offhand, this list-article could be improved by providing some information about each state party, not just linking to them. Could be in tabular format. But again, i suggest discussion at the AFD for now. --doncram 19:35, 4 June 2014 (UTC)
Infobox
editDemocratic Party | |
|---|---|
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| Chairperson | Debbie Wasserman Schultz (FL) |
| Secretary | Stephanie Rawlings-Blake (MD) |
| President of the United States | Barack Obama (IL)[1] |
| Vice President of the United States | Joe Biden (DE)[1] |
| Senate leader | Harry Reid (Minority Leader) (NV) |
| House leader | Nancy Pelosi (Minority Leader) (CA) |
| Founder | Andrew Jackson |
| Founded | 1828 |
| Preceded by | Democratic-Republican Party |
| Headquarters | 430 South Capitol St. SE, Washington, D.C., 20003 |
| Student wing | College Democrats of America |
| Youth wing | Young Democrats of America |
| Women's wing | National Federation of Democratic Women |
| Overseas wing | Democrats Abroad |
| Membership (2012) | 43.1 million[2] |
| Ideology | Liberalism[3][4] Progressivism[5] Social liberalism[6] |
| National affiliation | Democratic Party |
| International affiliation | None |
| Colors | Blue |
| Seats in the Senate | 44 / 100 |
| Seats in the House | 188 / 435 |
| Governorships | 18 / 50 |
| State Upper House Seats | 832 / 1,972 |
| State Lower House Seats | 2,344 / 5,411 |
| Website | |
| www | |
Infoboxes are to assist the general reader. There is no requirement that infoboxes appear at only one page. Given that the DNC is a committee made up of reps from these state parties it is entirely appropriate to have the infobox here as well. Capitalismojo (talk) 18:28, 4 March 2015 (UTC)
- It was deleted again and I just restored it. I don't have strong feelings about it, but keeping it or not should be discussed here. --doncram 07:54, 28 July 2016 (UTC)
- As I noted in the soon-to-be-closed AfD, I removed the infobox as its use in this context is not compliant with MOS:INFOBOX. WP:INFOBOXPURPOSE says that "the purpose of an infobox [is] to summarize (and not supplant) key facts that appear in the article". Infoboxes are supposed to highlight facts that are (or that should be) in the body an article. Except for a link to the article about the party's overseas wing, none of the information in the infobox is in the article and I can't imagine that it would be even if this list were brought to FL status. This shouldn't come as a surprise as {{Infobox political party}} was designed to be used in an article about a political party, not a list of political parties. I can't conceive of a way that this article could be brought into compliance with the Manual of Style without removing the infobox. Graham (talk) 02:09, 29 July 2016 (UTC)
- Thank you for explaining your reasoning, and yes I agree. Could a copy of the infobox be placed here just for reference as to its fields, which suggest possible columns for the table. I can't copy it conveniently from where I am editing. Also I am sort of appalled to see, in edit mode, that the infobox is hard-coded here...it is not a displayed live copy of an infobox at the national level article (so it does not automatically update). More reason to remove it. Thanks! --doncram 23:10, 29 July 2016 (UTC)
- As I noted in the soon-to-be-closed AfD, I removed the infobox as its use in this context is not compliant with MOS:INFOBOX. WP:INFOBOXPURPOSE says that "the purpose of an infobox [is] to summarize (and not supplant) key facts that appear in the article". Infoboxes are supposed to highlight facts that are (or that should be) in the body an article. Except for a link to the article about the party's overseas wing, none of the information in the infobox is in the article and I can't imagine that it would be even if this list were brought to FL status. This shouldn't come as a surprise as {{Infobox political party}} was designed to be used in an article about a political party, not a list of political parties. I can't conceive of a way that this article could be brought into compliance with the Manual of Style without removing the infobox. Graham (talk) 02:09, 29 July 2016 (UTC)
- Sure thing, I've placed a copy of the infobox above. Graham (talk) 00:52, 30 July 2016 (UTC)
References
- ^ a b "Democrats.org". Democrats.org.
- ^ Samuel Kernell; Gary C. Jacobson; Thad Kousser. "Background of Political Parties in the United States". ProCon.org. Retrieved November 9, 2012.
{{cite web}}: Unknown parameter|last-author-amp=ignored (|name-list-style=suggested) (help) - ^ Arnold, N. Scott (2009). Imposing values: an essay on liberalism and regulation. Florence: Oxford University Press. p. 3. ISBN 0-495-50112-3.
Modern liberalism occupies the left-of-center in the traditional political spectrum and is represented by the Democratic Party in the United States.
- ^ "President Obama, the Democratic Party, and Socialism: A Political Science Perspective". The Huffington Post. 2012-06-29. Retrieved 2015-01-09.
- ^ "The Left's Quiet Advance in Democratic Primaries". theatlantic.com. 2013-06-19. Retrieved 2014-06-22.
- ^ Paul Starr. "Center-Left Liberalism". princeton.edu. Retrieved 2014-06-09.
- ^ "Montana's Steve Bullock to lead Democratic governors - OnPolitics". OnPolitics. Retrieved January 19, 2015.
Table
editIn these edits I began tabulating some info. What data columns and types of notes should be included? I started with two measures of state party strength within their state, the fractions of upper house & lower house seats held, which is available for many/most states. I entered info from corresponding state party pages through Delaware or so. Please help fill this out! --doncram 07:54, 28 July 2016 (UTC)
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