Talk:List of school districts in New York

One or two lists?

Creating one list would most likely make sense. I don't see a reason for having both Lists of school districts in New York and List of school districts in New York.

My concern is that the List of school districts in New York show a "downstate" POV (before anyone flames, I was born in the Tremont section of the Bronx and grew up on LI); For example, Malone is about as far from Albany as Albany is from NYC, and should be in some group other than Capital Region. Any suggestions for improving the regional names? What about the NYS State Ed's Joint Management Team areas? That's my $.02

--Igoldste 20:47, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

Agree that two lists are a pain to maintain and can breed confusion, but there are pros to having the list organized both alphabetically and by region. I AM from the non-Downstate part of NY so I've started a WNY section. This may either help matters or further disambugate them. Time to ponder . . . . 2¢ Jim Dunning 12:02, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

One list would be better if it could satisfy both of the current structures: one list by region (List of ...) and another list alphabetically by school name (Lists of ...). I'm not sure we can do that using the rules and formats of Wikipedia. To further complicate things, there is a "category:School districts in New York" that shows the school districts alphabetically, but it only contains the district if the district has a wiki page and that page has been properly categorized to New York State, so the category list misses a lot of the districts. Throwing my 2¢ in, I suggest we leave things as they are, at least for now. I have added a link to the other list on each list's wiki so that readers can at least find both lists. Truthanado 01:46, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

There is really no reason for two separate lists. Both contain the same districts. The difference is in the way the lists are organized: List of school districts in New York is organized by the State Education Department's JMT regions and BOCES areas; Lists of school districts in New York arranges the districts alphabetically. The former list also contains more information in that it contains the BOCES regions and all of the districts are linked to either their Wikipedia article or website; the latter article contains some wikilinks but is mostly plain text. I suggest that all of the info on the alphabetical Lists of school districts in New York be removed and the article redirected to the List of school districts in New York article. Since I am the one who restructured and improved that article, I don't think it would be appropriate for me to do the redirect. Therefore, I leave it to the Wikipedia community. Truthanado 15:51, 4 August 2007 (UTC)

JMT Regions

Here is a list of the regions used by NYSED:

• Western (encompasses Erie I, Erie 2-Cattaraugus-Chautauqua, Orleans-Niagara, Cattaraugus-Allegany-Erie-Wyoming, and Steuben-Allegany BOCES areas)

• Suffolk (encompasses Eastern Suffolk and Western Suffolk BOCES areas)

• Nassau (encompasses Nassau BOCES area)

• Capital District (encompasses Washington-Saratoga-Warren-Hamilton-Essex, Hamilton-Fulton-Montgomery, Albany-Schoharie-Schenectady, Rensselaer-Columbia-Greene BOCES areas)

• Mid-West (encompasses Monroe I, Wayne-Finger Lakes, Monroe 2-Orleans, and Genesee Valley BOCES areas)

• Mid-State (encompasses Oswego, Cayuga-Onondaga, Onondaga-Cortland-Madison, and Tompkins-Seneca-Tioga BOCES areas)

• Mid-South (encompasses Delaware-Chenango-Madison-Otsego, Broome-Delaware-Tioga, Otsego-Delaware-Schoharie-Greene and Schuyler-Chemung-Tioga BOCES areas)

• Mohawk (encompasses Herkimer-Fulton-Hamilton-Otsego, Oneida-Madison-Herkimer, Madison-Oneida and Jefferson-Lewis-Oneida-Hamilton-Herkimer BOCES areas)

• North Country (encompasses St. Lawrence-Lewis, Franklin-Essex-Hamilton, and Clinton-Essex-Warren-Washington BOCES areas)

• Mid-Hudson (encompasses Sullivan, Ulster, Orange-Ulster, and Dutchess BOCES areas)

• Lower Hudson (encompasses Rockland, Putnam-Westchester, and Westchester BOCES areas)

What I like about using them, if we are going to group the district by regions of the state, is that this is how the districts consider themselves grouped.

--Igoldste 14:55, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

The New York State Education Department (NYSED) breaks the state into eight Higher Education Planning Regions:

• Central (Broome, Cayuga, Chenango, Cortland, Delaware, Madison, Onondaga, Oswego, Otsego, Tioga, Tompkins counties)
• Genesee Valley (Chemung, Genesee, Livingston, Monroe, Ontario, Orleans, Schuyler, Seneca, Steuben, Wayne, Yates counties)
• Long Island (Nassau, Suffolk counties)
• Metropolitan (Bronx, Kings, New York, Queens, Richmond counties)
• Mid-Hudson (Dutchess, Orange, Putnam, Rockland, Sullivan, Ulster, Westchester counties)
• Northeast (Albany, Clinton, Columbia, Essex, Fulton, Greene, Hamilton, Herkimer, Montgomery, Oneida, Rensselaer, Saratoga, Schenectady, Schoharie, Warren, Washington counties)
• Northern (Franklin, Jefferson, Lewis, St. Lawrence counties)
• Western (Allegany, Cattaraugus, Chautauqua, Erie, Niagara, Wyoming counties)

I have restructured the List of school districts in New York article to match that breakdown. Truthanado 04:25, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

I would think that since both the JMTs and the districts are under SED's Office of Elementary, Middle, Secondary and Continuing Education (EMSC), then there would be a natural affinity. My understanding is that the HEPRs are for Colleges and Universities. Just because the regions are from SED, I don't think that it makes it appropriate to K-12. For example, SED other offices (such as Cultural Ed's public broadcasting) that divides the state into other different sections. Why do you feel that the HEPRs are more appropriate to K-12 schools than the JMT regions?

--Igoldste 04:04, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

I have restructured the entire article to use JMT regions, further subdivided by BOCES areas. This is more accurate than my earlier restructuring by Higher Education Regions, as pointed out by the Wikipedia Community. I trust this is an improvement in the article, and welcome comments and further improvements. Truthanado 00:50, 3 August 2007 (UTC)

Albany city school district boces?

Is Albany city school district part of, or not part of, the Capital region BOCES? According to the cited website (http://capitalregionboces.org/Components/Index.cfm) it looks like it is.

Rdisalvo (talk) 01:20, 28 July 2015 (UTC)

It is not a component district. The cited page states ″Capital Region BOCES provides shared educational services to 23 component school districts, plus the City School District of Albany.″ --Ira Goldstein (talk) 01:45, 28 July 2015 (UTC)

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