Talk:List of private contractor deaths in Afghanistan

Latest comment: 4 years ago by BoonDock in topic Notability missing in lead paragraph

Notability missing in lead paragraph edit

I see that editors have expended a lot of time on this list. Please could someone explain why it is notable and how it qualifies under Wikipedia's notability guidelines? Wikipedia:Notability (events) says: Many events receive coverage in the news and yet are not of historic or lasting importance. The Manual of Style and Wikipedia:Lists suggest that even lists should have a lead section that explains their notability. Thanks. --Bejnar (talk) 16:50, 15 February 2010 (UTC)Reply

Also, what about the policy Wikipedia:NOTESAL BoonDock (talk) 23:00, 1 March 2020 (UTC)Reply

Edit request from Kearha1, 11 December 2010 edit

{{edit semi-protected}} Mercenaries are foreign nationals hired by a government for military or security purposes. If an individual/(PMC) is hired by his native country or by a company under contract by his native country, then they are not a Mercenary. U.S. citizens employed by U.S. companies for the purposes of: protection of U.S. business interests/ individuals; protection of U.S. public/government officials; protection of U.S. public employees on official business; protection of businesses and employees under U.S. government contract; intelligence gathering under U.S. government contract; and even direct participation or individual action in military operations under U.S. government contract.

If a U.S. citizen is employed for military purposes by a foreign government or corporation that is not funded or employed by the U.S. government, then they would be considered a mercenary. The term mercenary would also be applied to non U.S. and non-Afghani nationals employed by the U.S. government.

It's disrespectful to current and past PMC/military contractors to refer to them as mercenaries. Private military contractors have participated in every military conflict or war in our nation's history including the Revolutionary war. If you can not accurately determine the status of the contractor, please refrain from insulting the deceased and their families by directly referring to them as or implying that they are a mercenary. Kearha1 (talk) 03:41, 11 December 2010 (UTC)Reply

Kearha1 (talk) 03:41, 11 December 2010 (UTC)Reply

  Done After looking at Mercenary, I concur with your assessment. As far as I can see, the term mercenary was only used in the lead, so I removed it there. The term private military contractor seems to be correct, though, so I left that. I think that should address your concerns; if there was more, please post here again. Qwyrxian (talk) 02:22, 12 December 2010 (UTC)Reply

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Proposal to change the page name edit

The title and introduction don't make it explicitly clear that this is for foreign contractor deaths - nowhere on the page is there a list of private contractor deaths among Afghan nationals (which is probably a horrifically high number at this point, more than a couple hundred). But not clarifying may confuse readers, who may draw the false conclusion that the overall number of contractors who have died in the turmoil is quite low. 67.254.79.152 (talk) 19:07, 22 February 2018 (UTC)Reply