Talk:List of political parties in Australia

Who is an authority on what political parties exist?

I know I've recently been the one to edit this page more in line with the the federal and state/territory electoral commissions but the news on the deregistration of the United Australia Party with the Australian Electoral Commission (AEC) has made me wonder if the electoral commissions should be considered to hold the comprehensive list of parities. Ralph Babet has stated that he remains a member of the party and the Australian parliament house (APH) website agrees.

Further complicating the issue is that both the AEC and APH list separately the Country Liberal Party and the AEC lists the Liberal National Party of Queensland as a sub-party of the Liberals, while the APH lists them as a separate party.

I think we have consensus that the Coalition consists of the two parliamentary parties and not of the four 'electoral' parties, but how should we go about making this a consistent decision?

My proposal:

I think we should follow the following guidelines on which parties to include and how to list them:

1. Parties which have representation (or which are part of a larger party with representation, e.g. the ACT Greens in the federal parliament) should be included in the parliamentary parties section, and should be grouped by their parliamentary parties.(e.g. 2 coalition parties not 4)
2. Parties which have representation (or which are part of a larger party with representation) should be listed even if they are not registered with the appropriate electoral commission.
3. Parties without representation (and which aren't part of a larger party with representation), should be included if they are registered with the appropriate electoral commission.
4. Parties should be given a name which is recognisable, commonly used and not unnecessarily verbose (e.g. 'Australian Labor Party' rather than 'Australian Labor Party (ALP)' and FUSION rather than FUSION: Science, Pirate, Secular, Climate Emergency)
5. Abbreviated names should be removed as they don't really add much and are unnecessary if we give each party commonly used names.
6. Party leaders should be listed even if they sit in different parliaments to the relevant section (e.g. Robbie Katter for Katter's Australian Party)

As a consequence of these guidelines I would remove David Pocock from the list of parties, since it (the party) has representation and David Pocock (the person) doesn't belong to any parliamentary party (he is listed as an independent by APH), and add the United Australia Party, since it has representation even though it is not registered with the AEC.

I'd appreciate your feedback on this proposal.

Micmicm (talk) 07:02, 13 September 2022 (UTC)

It is a confusing proposal.

• Which of your numbered points supports what you propose with respect to David Pocock? The conclusions sound reasonable, but your logic in getting to those conclusions is unclear to me.
• How can we tell what a "party" is in your proposed framework? Suppose that a politician (or candidate) regularly states "I'm always guided by the Australian Workers Union", or "I'm a devout member of the Catholic Church", or "I'm a member of the Stolen Generations and always represent them in Parliament/politics". Are they all representing "parties"?

In cases like the UAP I would not list them as a party, but happy to retain something like the present footnote, converted to a comment immediately after the table.

—DIV
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(1.145.20.25 (talk) 08:04, 10 November 2023 (UTC))

Missing registered parties

Several registered parties appear to be missing. And some unregistered parties should not be listed as parties (although they could be mentioned as informal groupings).

Victoria

For instance, for Victoria the VEC currently lists 22 registered parties.

Missing Victorian parties:

• Angry Victorians Party (since October 2022)
• Libertarian Party (since before 2021)
• New Democrats^{Wrong link} (since October 2022)

Not (or no longer) registered parties listed in the WP article:

• Australian Values Party (since June 2023)
• Liberal Democratic Party

—DIV
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(1.145.20.25 (talk) 08:24, 10 November 2023 (UTC))

Hi User:1.145.20.25 - you're welcome to add any missing parties, this page is open to IP edits. ITBF (talk) 11:15, 10 November 2023 (UTC)

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