Talk:List of people associated with the Revolt of the Brotherhoods

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The problem is not the incompletness of the list, but the abscense of references: THAT is a real problem!

Also, according to Sara Nalle's SCHOLARLY research paper "Revisiting El Encubierto", this man announced himself as a messianic figure whose mission was to conquer Jerusalem and inaugurate a golden age, and never claimed the throne of Spain. This essay appears in Edwards, Kathryn A., ed. Werewolves, Witches, and Wandering Spirits: Traditional Belief and Folklore in Early Modern Europe. Kirksville, MO: Truman State University Press, 2002. Questia. 6 Nov. 2008 <http://www.questia.com/PM.qst?a=o&d=113381971>. 189.217.67.166 (talk) 16:45, 6 November 2008 (UTC)Reply

That's a great link; thanks. That said, the current article is not unreferenced... it's mostly taken from Bonila's Las Revoluciones Españolas En El Siglo XVI as noted in the References section, though some parts are from the Spanish/Catalan Wikipedia (notably the bit about the bounty on The Hidden's head, and how it was two of his own supporters that did him in). Mind you Bonila is very much a biased source - it was published back in the Franco days and very much spouts the party line about the rebels being crazy and bad, but it's still useful, and more to the point it's the only book I found at the library on-topic.

Anyway, even if Nalle is right, it is undoubtedly true that the *official* stories about The Hidden say he was claiming the throne and add the "The Hidden King" moniker. But that's not incompatible with also being a messianic figure, too. Also Nalle kind of skirts over the psychotic raids and anti-Muslim prejudice that the Hidden had, as well. Still, neat stuff. Between those two sources, there's probably enough to write a decent article now. SnowFire (talk) 17:57, 6 November 2008 (UTC)Reply

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