Talk:List of online databases

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What are the notability guidelines for inclusion of a database into this list? Should it also have an article present on wikipedia? The TLPD occurred to me to put into this list, but WP:NOTE doesn't really help me about whether or not to include it "These notability guidelines only outline how suitable a topic is for its own article or list. They do not directly limit the content of an article or list." Since everything on this list is a wikipedia link, should I refrain from adding the TLPD to the list of online databases, because it's probably not notable? Or should I add it anyway, and just have it be an external link? 71.211.146.151 (talk) 20:12, 2 May 2011 (UTC)

UK census and other government statistics

Is This system in the list? I can't find it. Should it be?--Robert EA Harvey (talk) 05:54, 20 April 2013 (UTC)

= Caveat

The Office of national statistics has the 2011 census data presented in a different way to the 2001 census.

I wrote them the following email:

Here is a queer thing.

The map at http://www.neighbourhood.statistics.gov.uk/dissemination/LeadDomainList.do?a=7&b=11120794&c=bitchfield&d=16&g=6482018&i=1001x1003&m=0&r=1&s=1366828291601&enc=1&domainId=58&census=true
clearly shows Boothby Pagnell inside the parish of Bitchfield and Bassingthorne.

But according to SKDC, they are separate:
http://moderngov.southkesteven.gov.uk/mgParishCouncilDetails.aspx?ID=411
http://moderngov.southkesteven.gov.uk/mgParishCouncilDetails.aspx?ID=410

Your own site gives them separate in 2001
http://www.neighbourhood.statistics.gov.uk/dissemination/viewFullDataset.do;jsessionid=0JhQR4dTql4Lx8ZQGGgnvXm4g6YvnyJ4B7rC7ZylPq13m9n249J4!-1346669638!13668262

59859?instanceSelection=03070&productId=779&$ph=60_61&datasetInstanceId=3070&startColumn=1&numberOfColumns=4&containerAreaId=790460&nsjs=true&nsck=true&nssvg=fa

lse&nswid=1024
So is it your map that is wrong?

The reply I got back was

The parish guidance at

http://neighbourhood.statistics.gov.uk/dissemination/Info.do?page=census2011onness/geography/parishes/parishes-and-communities.htm provides an example of a similar instance that you report under the '...The boundaries for my parish/community don't look right compared to previous versions..' sub-heading.

Producing data for small areas, such as villages, can be problematic, not least due to the small populations often living in a village there is the risk of disclosure. In addition a villages can vary immensely in nature across the country so are difficult to define statistically.

To address the issue of disseminating data at small area level, the concept of Super Output Areas (SOAs) was devised. Details of SOAs and their rationale can be found here

http://www.neighbourhood.statistics.gov.uk/dissemination/Info.do?page=aboutneighbourhood/geography/superoutputareas/soafaq/soa-faq.htm
http://www.neighbourhood.statistics.gov.uk/dissemination/Info.do?page=nessgeography/superoutputareasexplained/output-areas-explained.htm

While the intention was that SOA geographies were meant to be stable, population changes arising from the 2011 Census meant that some new geographic entities had to be created and some existing ones merged, please see the PDF report at http://www.ons.gov.uk/ons/guide-method/geography/products/census/report--changes-to-output-areas-and-super-output-areas-in-england-and-wales--2001-to-2011.pdf for more details.

For 2001 Boothby Pagnell parish was associated with the Output Area (OA) E00133659, for 2011 due to the changes in the above report it was now associated with a new OA E00169422 this has changed how Boothby Pagnall is represented statistically. The maps within Neighbourhood Statistics are to show statistical dissemination only, they are not intended to provide a definitive geographic representation of a particular area.

The parish guidance at http://neighbourhood.statistics.gov.uk/dissemination/Info.do?page=census2011onness/geography/parishes/parishes-and-communities.htm provides an example of a similar instance that you report

I hope this helps, apologies for all the links, unfortunately it is quite a complex subject that does not fit easily into a single email.

It would seem that what I would assume was a reputable source, nay the definitive one, cannot be trusted below district level.--Robert EA Harvey (talk) 16:43, 26 April 2013 (UTC)

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