Talk:List of new religious movements

Entries will be removed edit

Lists such as this one are intended to be lists of Wikipedia articles, but several entries here do not meet that standard. I will be going through in a few days to remove entries that do not link to articles addressing the NRM itself, and wanted to give a heads-up to other editors. Stubs are fine for now, but understand they will need to be expanded into proper articles that meet Wikipedia guidelines. TechBear | Talk | Contributions 23:07, 13 July 2022 (UTC)Reply

Lists such as this one are intended to be lists of Wikipedia articles
Are they? That's not what WP:LISTN says:

Notability of lists (whether titled as "List of Xs" or "Xs") is based on the group. One accepted reason why a list topic is considered notable is if it has been discussed as a group or set by independent reliable sources [...] Because the group or set is notable, the individual items in the list do not need to be independently notable

Guarapiranga  21:36, 7 August 2022 (UTC)Reply

Individual and collective edit

This article claims that they have a emphasis or focus on the self, but the main article on NRM says that they can be individualist or collectivist. 2603:6010:11F0:3C0:E0CA:C788:E8EA:D60E (talk) 04:22, 29 October 2022 (UTC)Reply

Why is Spaghetti Monster/Pastafarianism listed as a NRM/Cult? [1] edit

Does any original source actually refer to the Spaghetti Monster Satire as a cult? [2] It's an obvious satire. There is no authoritarian leader, no indoctrination program. No catechism other than its belief in a cartoon monster. It doesn't belong being listed on the NRM/Cult page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:4040:90CF:A600:6017:264:56B7:5052 (talk) 17:48, 20 December 2022 (UTC)Reply

Inclusion of religious groups formed before 1830. edit

Per the lead of the main article, New religous movements, the earliest date proposed by scholars for NRMs is 1830; yet the article lists quite a few founded before that date. They should be removed, especially considering that other scholars only apply the term to groups formed after 1945. Skyerise (talk) 23:08, 25 January 2024 (UTC)Reply

The date of founding wouldn't necessarily be the determining factor. Often changes in society at large, the movement moving beyond its initial base and becoming more widespread/noticed/influential, significant alterations in the tenets or practices, etc. can result in a movement having older origins becoming regarded as an NRM. In addition, some scholars group movements by typologies based on degree of development and/or social integration, rather than date of origin, and some movements have yet to progress beyond an embryonic state of growth. I think it best to leave it up to whether reliable scholarly sources (not necessarily universally) class a group as an NRM. I'd agree that the lead's statement about "relatively modern origin" might easily be misconstrued by some readers. • Astynax talk 19:57, 26 January 2024 (UTC)Reply