Talk:List of military engagements during the Russian invasion of Ukraine

Battle of Chasiv Yar

IMO it should be added 37.73.202.186 (talk) 17:37, 27 February 2024 (UTC)

You are welcome to create a page for Battle of Chasiv Yar based on reliable sources, after which it can be added here. SaintPaulOfTarsus (talk) 13:24, 20 March 2024 (UTC)

Clear evidence of Wikipedia's bias

The fact that Wikipedia documents a huge number of battles in 2022, and then fails to document more than a handful in all of 2023, is clear evidence that Wikipedia wants to misrepresent the war in Ukraine's favour. Ukraine was clearly losing the war throughout 2023 and all the military engagements were Russian victories, such as each of the individual engagements in the Ukrainian counteroffensive and all engagements in Ukraine's Dnipro campaign including Krynky. Wikipedia editors appear to be trying to conceal battles that Ukraine lost from readers by no longer creating articles about each military engagement as in 2022, they are misrepresenting 2023 as containing almost no battles in the war but rather vague offensives and vectors of ongoing attack - an absurdity resulting from bias and manipulation. What kind of war contains a year full of battles deserving an article for each one, and then the rest of the war consists of almost no battles that deserve an article each? If Hostomel was a battle, then Krynky was a battle, so was Rabotino and the "Vremevka Ledge" all of which are catastrophic Ukrainian defeats and Russian decisive victories in the war. Every failed Ukrainian incursion attempt against Russia should also have an article listing it as a distinct battle Ukraine lost and their failed objectives. Redro7203 (talk) 12:09, 17 March 2024 (UTC)

User:Redro7203: You are welcome to draft separate articles for each of the engagements that currently make up sections of the 2023 Ukrainian counteroffensive article, and there may be a strong justification to do so, based on the fact that that article has grown to a size where WP:TOOBIG advises it probably should be divided or trimmed.

In addition to what you have rightly noticed regarding the 2023 battles, the discrepancy can also be explained by the overabundance of standalone articles that exist for the February–March 2022 stage of the war, including some that should probably be merged into other articles; these include a number of the supposed battles in the northern provinces, but also in the south. This is something I plan to take a close look at soon, so you are welcome to participate in the discussions that will be opened in the weeks ahead. Regards SaintPaulOfTarsus (talk) 13:43, 20 March 2024 (UTC)

(edit conflict) @Redro7203: — To add onto what SaintPaulOfTarsus said: You are welcome to create other battle articles if you think they need an article. What you think is a bias may, in fact, be just a lack of people writing stuff. You can write about it. If you have questions regarding a specific battle location or want help in writing any of these missing battle articles, feel free to reach out to me on my talk page. The Weather Event Writer (Talk Page) 13:45, 20 March 2024 (UTC)

I completely agree with everything you said, the funny thing is they will tell you to make an article about the specific battles and yet when I try to do that they denied my article because they said it didn't have reliable sources even though I was using sources they they use to support any claims that Ukraine's winning the only reason they denied it was because I was writing a article about a battle that Ukraine ended up losing. Basically the only allowed articles about battles that Ukraine won or is ongoing even early during the war they were also making up battles that never happened just to make it it look like Ukraine was winning the war they only tookthose articles down afterwards because they didn't actually have any reliable source. It's also a hassle for them to even consider Russia winning any battle as you could tell by the reluctance to consider the battle of Bakhmut over or even a Russian Victory and the same goes for the 2023 Ukrainian counteroffensive that was obviously a failure but they tried to downplay it. TheMilitaryHistorian1939 (talk) 22:54, 28 March 2024 (UTC)

@TheMilitaryHistorian1939: Forgive me if this question seems dumb, but why did you say yet when I try to do that they denied my article? Based on your contributions, you haven't worked to create a battle article? Besides this discussion, you have a single talk page message on Talk:Battle of Bakhmut. You just had two editors, both who work in the modern military history realm directly with the Russia-Ukraine war say we are willing to assist you if you have a specific battle you think should get an article. I'm not sure why you think we are lying about helping you. For reference, both myself and SaintPaulOfTarsus worked extensively on the Battle of Kherson and have it as a current good article nomination. Note, that is a battle which Russia won. I'm not working to be rude here or anything like that, but I just want to ask the blunt question: Would you like assistance with creating a specific battle article (with the idea to create more after the first one), or do you want to just say Wikipedia has bias and not accomplish anything? Again, I'm not asking the bluntness with any rude intents. I'm honestly just confused why you seem to think we are lying. The Weather Event Writer (Talk Page) 23:14, 28 March 2024 (UTC)

To answer your first question regarding my contribution I had another account before this one where I made attempts to write articles of specific battles where I was denied and in many cases I kept getting banned from contributing anything and afterwards my account was totally banned only because I criticize the biasness that many editors with administration power. I don't need help because I followed all the guidelines when making the article and yet it was denied for supposedly not having reliable source even though my source were acceptable by Wikipedia standards,when I asked for a follow up they just ignore me. I have no interest in writing another article after wasting all my time writing the one I wrote and it was denied for no reasonable reason TheMilitaryHistorian1939 (talk) 23:40, 28 March 2024 (UTC)

Results of 2023 Bryansk Oblast raid should be a Russian separatist forces failure

TheMilitaryHistorian1939 (talk) 22:35, 28 March 2024 (UTC)

Results of 2023 Bryansk Oblast raid, 2023 Belgorod Oblast incursions, 2024 western Russia incursion and Battle of Ocheretyne

Results of 2023 Bryansk Oblast raid, 2023 Belgorod Oblast incursions and 2024 western Russia incursion should be Russian victory/defeat of anti-government forces. The Battle of Ocheretyne, if it comes only to the battle for the settlement itself, should be a victory for Russia, because the battle is already over and the settlement has been captured. This is not ongoing. Ukrainian claims about control of any part of the village are unsubstantiated and there is no evidence for it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bortak42 (talk • contribs) 12:15, 30 April 2024 (UTC)