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Talk:List of law enforcement officers killed in the line of duty in the United States/Archive 2

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Latest comment: 5 years ago2 comments1 person in discussion

If you run this regex and HTML you will get sort keys for date cells in date column of sortable table:

From "\|\| ?(\[" to "</html>": 

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Put the code for the table in the pre element.

Removed [[ and ]] from $1 in <span class="k">$1</span>.

--User123o987name (talk) 13:31, 31 December 2018 (UTC)

Update: I think that Template:Dts should be used instead. --User123o987name (talk) 17:55, 31 December 2018 (UTC)

Inaccuracy and Ambiguity

Latest comment: 5 years ago2 comments2 people in discussion

Some of the citations reference the wrong year (the 2014 section references https://archive.is/20161021092801/https://www.odmp.org/search/year?year=2015, for example) and many count K9 deaths alongside human ones. Pwag42 (talk) 20:12, 23 January 2019 (UTC)

Hello, Pwag42. Do you have any suggestions on how to improve the article? Please advise. Thank you ‡ Єl Cid of ᐺalencia ᐐT₳LKᐬ 20:23, 23 January 2019 (UTC)

Add

Latest comment: 3 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

Please add April 2021 United States Capitol car attack ... William Francis Evans ... 2021. Thanks. Joseph A. Spadaro (talk) 00:07, 14 April 2021 (UTC)

Concern with this page

Latest comment: 2 years ago5 comments3 people in discussion

While discussing the case of officer Ella French at WP:Redirects for discussion/Log/2021 September 1#Ella French, there were concerns about this list page being non-maintainable.

  • One of the opinions was that as per the previous deletion discussion at WP:Articles for deletion/List of American police officers killed in the line of duty in 2017, a majority of keep !voters felt that all non-notable cases should be removed from the list. It claimed a pretty clear consensus against non-bluelinkable entries.
  • The AfD discussion's Keep result had been summarized by user postdlf who said the content as it stands has issues for editors to resolve, but didn't mention about notability or blue links.
  • Since the AfD in 2017, there have been about 500 edits by some 300 users, and a user who has made about 150 of those edits, said that this entire article is a disaster, it's an overwhelming task of keeping up to date with it, and suggested that only officers with a relevant page on Wikipedia are kept.
  • The RfD discussion was summarized that arguments regarding the content and existence of this list article are far better resolved via a talk page discussion and/or AfD of this page.

Inviting comments on this. Jay (talk) 08:35, 9 October 2021 (UTC)

Pinging the AfD participants: Dennis Bratland, SummerPhDv2.0, Praemonitus, Mangoe, Clarityfiend, Lepricavark, Rhododendrites. Jay (talk) 03:23, 12 October 2021 (UTC)
  • It's been a while, but I'm still of the same opinion I had during that AfD (where my !vote was a keep conditional upon the list being restricted to notable examples rather than mirroring a database trying to be exhaustive). — Rhododendrites talk \\ 03:30, 12 October 2021 (UTC)
    The AfD wasn't closed conditionally. It was closed with the note "Clear consensus that the list is appropriate", only mentioning that there are editorial issues to resolve. You could say that about any article. Some !votes mentioned only listing officers with articles, but that wasn't the consensus at the time.

    Restricting a list to only notable people is a valid approach, but including non-notable list entries is just as valid, per WP:EXEMPT1E.

    You could re-nominate for deletion, but it seems like the outcome would be the same. You could start an RfC to resolve whether or not to keep non-notable officer deaths. Putting that to rest would help everyone focus on other issues. --Dennis Bratland (talk) 04:57, 12 October 2021 (UTC)

    The AfD wasn't closed conditionally. Right. I didn't reiterate the close, I reiterated my !vote. This isn't DRV, and I don't think Jay intended to relitigate that AfD -- just to resolve one of the editorial issues subsequent to it. — Rhododendrites talk \\ 13:02, 12 October 2021 (UTC)
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