Talk:List of language creators

Latest comment: 3 years ago by British Ben in topic Inventors of fictitious languages

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Don't you see it as a problem that this is a word only used by the very small community of atrificial language makers?

Nope. Gwalla | Talk 22:21, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Removal of Unpublished Conlangers

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I disagree with Weyes' decision to remove all of the unpublished conlangers from the article. Some, certainly, are not terribly notable, but inasmuch as, for example, Mark Rosenfelder is notable enough to have a Wikipedia article on him, and on his major conlang (Verdurian), I think he ought to be mentioned here. Henning is also certainly notable, and Langmaker is known by nearly every conlanger who uses the web, I should think. If no one else, it is my opinion that these two at least should at the very least be mentioned; they're well-known enough in the conlanger community to merit mention. I'd like to know what other people think, though, so any comments? --Whimemsz 19:14, Jun 5, 2005 (UTC)

You have a point. Rosenfelder is notable. So is Rick Morneau, whose "Essays on Artificial Langauge Design" are frequently cited by conlangers. It'll require a bit of vigilance, though, to keep people from just adding themselves or their friends. Gwalla | Talk 22:21, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Merge?

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Should this article be merged with constructed language? It seems short enough, and inseparable from the topic. -Branddobbe 22:18, 20 October 2005 (UTC)Reply

Yeah, this is really completely tied with conlangs themselves, so this article seems fairly pointless. However, we might want to just rename the article "List of Notable Conlangers" or something to that effect. --Whimemsz 22:39, 20 October 2005 (UTC)Reply
All right. That would be a pretty short list, but then so is List of fictional U.S. states, which I started and which I think is vital to human existence.
Hey, aren't you on the Zompist bulletin board? I'm GreenBowTie there. It figures this is where we'd meet. -Branddobbe 01:14, 25 October 2005 (UTC)Reply

Reverend William Fulco

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Um, "construct" and "reconstruct" are two different ideas. Why is Fulco considered a conlanger? Savatar 21:43, 29 May 2006 (UTC)Reply

Spelling

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Surely 'conlanguer is the better spelling as it is pronounced [kɔnlæŋər], to avoid [kɔnlændʒər]. -- Evertype· 15:53, 13 January 2008 (UTC)Reply

That spelling is unattested on Google, save for hits on the French verb, and [1]. Besides, it would lose the morphological compositionality (conlang + er, not *conlangue + er). arj (talk) 12:54, 16 January 2008 (UTC)Reply
Bugs me though. -- Evertype· 16:12, 16 January 2008 (UTC)Reply
It didn't occur to me that it could be pronounced that way, so I've added your transcription. Thanks. arj (talk) 21:44, 16 January 2008 (UTC)Reply
This (i.e. the percentage of people *pronouncing* it in a couple different ways) was discussed at LCC2 during the final discussion session; look up the audio for results. However, I don't know of anyone in the English conlanging community who's used any other spelling for it, given the very strong morphological compositionality and derivation. Sai Emrys ¿? 07:23, 19 January 2008 (UTC)Reply


Inventors of fictitious languages

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It would be nice if there could be more guidance on which languages the colangers invented - and by the way, surely the inventor of Klingon should be in there somewhere. ACEOREVIVED (talk) 20:23, 30 June 2011 (UTC)Reply

After consulting the Wikipedia entry on Klingon, I found out the inventor of this language - Gene L. Coon. I would like to know whether people think he should be in there. ACEOREVIVED (talk) 20:25, 30 June 2011 (UTC)Reply

Gene L. Coon created the Klingon race, but during his lifetime the Klingons only spoke in English. Marc Okrand is credited as the creator of the full language in 1985, but Klingon language credits James Doohan & Jon Povill with creating the first few words in 1979. Difficult to say who would be considered as the "inventor". British Ben (talk) 10:24, 21 May 2021 (UTC)Reply

J.K. Rowling didn't create a language

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As brilliant as the author is, J.K. Rowling never "invented" Parseltongue. She merely stated that it exists and italicized English words that were intended to have been "translated". There is no actual vocabulary or syntax of Parseltongue, contrast to Na'vi which is a full-out language. I love JKR, but she should not be mentioned here. The few phrases we hear from the film does not even give any clues to whether Parseltongue has any structure or matching vocabulary to it. Thank you.24.49.35.99 (talk) 05:08, 21 July 2011 (UTC)Reply

Auxiliary languages

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James Cooke Brown's Loglan is not an auxiliary language - it is an engineered language made for research. He should still have a place on this page, but either the section should be renamed or he should have his own section. Also, is John Quijada notable enough. His language has had 2 articles in the Computerra magazine, a New Yorker article and a Smiley Award. N4m3 (talk) 12:13, 24 December 2013 (UTC)Reply

Sonja Elen Kisa aka. Sonja Lang

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Anno 2017, "jan Sonja" is quite famous for the invention of Toki Pona, a minimalist Pigin-like Toaism based conlang, called Toki Pona and having some 123 words and 10 grammar rules... First published online mid-2001, it has now it's own text book published both in English and in French...

The only reason I didn't add it immediately in the Wikipedia article, is that she isn't a 'professional conlanger' nor is Toki Pona an international auxlang (at least it wasn't designed to be one, more and more people are trying it out to use it in that way, but the closed vocabulary and especially the very limited number system are standing in the way for its use as an auxlang.)

Hector Berlioz?

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I'm trying to find references to Hector Berlioz (composer) having created any language(s). Other than a reference to him knowing Jean Francois Sudre (Solresol); I can find nothing in his own article or on Google to suggest he tried conlanging himself. Did I miss something? Emelano (talk) 15:43, 8 July 2015 (UTC)Reply