Talk:List of governors' residences in the United States

Development

Omigosh there was a lot of rapid development of this article! User:L Kensington built out the table i started including adding pics for many if not all states from their linked articles. User:Neutrality eliminated all the pics (which i don't understand) and moved the article to focus just on U.S. governors' residences (which seems good to do) and made other changes. Duncanhill, and Altairisfar, and Dudemanfellabra, and Bearcat made other changes which added back pics for some, and which set up good columns for current vs. past official governors' residences. Somehow it is shorter now, just showing some states, while i had developed it up from the template of official residences by state to include something for every state. Well, good work, people! Keep up the good work! --doncram (talk) 03:34, 7 December 2010 (UTC)

I added two pictures of historic mansions, which i think improve the article, and I would add more and/or want others to add more. In this edit an editor removed the 2. I had started this list-article with expectation that it would include current and former governors' residences, and it still is identified as that. I actually was expecting to have each on a separate row, so there would be multiple rows for the U.S. state of Georgia, for example, in which case having a pic for each would be accomodated naturally. Given that another editor set up the columns for current vs. past residences, it occurred to me to put multiple pics in the one image column along with identifying descriptions where needed, and I thought that was working. Dudemanfellabra / Smallbones / others, do you feel that a different way of formatting the table would better accomodate these pictures? Should we revise the table to be one row per building? --doncram (talk) 18:21, 7 December 2010 (UTC)

How about reformatting to one building per row, with a dates-of-use column as done in many courthouse buildings articles developed by User:BD2412. For example, this excerpt from List of United States federal courthouses in Georgia:

Courthouse	City	Image	Street address	Jurisdiction	Dates of use	Named for
C. B. King U.S. Courthouse	Albany		201 West Broad Avenue	M.D. Ga.	?-present	Pioneering African American lawyer C. B. King
U.S. Post Office and Courthouse†	Athens		?	S.D. Ga. M.D. Ga.	1906-1926 1926-1942	n/a
U.S. Post Office and Courthouse	Athens		115 Hancock Avenue	M.D. Ga.	1942-present	n/a
Elbert P. Tuttle U.S. Court of Appeals Bldg†	Atlanta		56 Forsyth Street NW	11th Cir.	?-present	Court of Appeals judge Elbert Tuttle (1989)

Would revising towards this format be okay?

The list also could possibly be restricted to just places that were officially provided for use, by the state. But then what about the interesting mentions of private homes, hotels, places named Governor X House? --doncram (talk) 19:18, 7 December 2010 (UTC)

You could do something like a rowspan thing with the state column for any states that have had more than one governor's residence. In the case of Georgia, there could be the state name cell that spans 4 rows and then each row to the right would have one residence each. I would work up code, but I'm in a hurry at the moment. If it's not done by the time I get back, I'll show an example here.--Dudemanfellabra (talk) 21:56, 7 December 2010 (UTC)

That sounds okay/good to me. I suspect the rowspan thing would interfere with sortability of the table upon, say, date of construction of building, a feature which could be supported if "Georgia" and other state names are just repeated on as many rows as are needed. But format-wise, even if it precluded sorting, it might appear the best overall. I do think separate rows, whether joined by rowspan or not, are needed for each of the several current and past official residences in some states, to accomodate the same kind of address/location info and image and text/notes that are appropriate for all. Thanks! --doncram (talk) 22:09, 7 December 2010 (UTC)

Also maybe using asterisks or something with a key, like the following adapted from the courthouse list, might help:

*	Current official residence
†	Listed on the National Register of Historic Places (NRHP)
††	NRHP-listed and also designated as a National Historic Landmark

--doncram (talk) 22:14, 7 December 2010 (UTC)

I dropped a few of the NRHP-listed ones below, which turned out to be "Governor's Mansion"s that weren't associated with any state governor, e.g. one that was home of the director of some institution in Maine. And i created rows for the other NRHP ones, including for places that were a governor's home like one in Beresford, South Dakota, but which might not have been an official, state-provided residence for the sitting governor of the state. I wouldn't mind treating the latter ones differently. I'd rather let information accumulate for a while, but then when it is more clear which ones are official vs. not official state-provided residences, I'd support moving the non-official ones to a separate, subsidiary table below. Honestly i don't know which is which right now, though. --doncram (talk) 14:41, 9 December 2010 (UTC)

Could editors please move places known or suspected not to be official residences, to the unofficial section below. We don't really know which are which, at this point, so i would prefer to keep them around, allow info to come forward. Eventually it could be discussed whether an unofficial section is to be kept or not, but i think it might add, permanently, in a good way. --doncram (talk) 22:08, 11 December 2010 (UTC)

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