Talk:List of foodborne illness outbreaks by death toll

"Deadliest" incidents

The list includes those where only 1 death occurred and few or no others infected. Not to make light of any death, should we have a criteria for what is included (5+ deaths), or allow all incidents? There must be thousands of incidents a year, perhaps dozens in which someone dies (particularly the elderly). Maybe this article is really about "Notable" incidents and could be renamed? Green Cardamom (talk) 05:12, 12 October 2011 (UTC)

Someone randomly dying isn't an outbreak, however. I think incidents in the title should be renamed to outbreaks, as that is the title used by the CDC and in other countries. Someone can die in an isolated case, but people dying from a wider outbreak is different. Silverseren^C 14:59, 12 October 2011 (UTC)

Ok fine with me, but how do we define "outbreak" for the purpose of list criteria inclusion? I think "deadliest" is problematic since it's a subjective word with no clear criteria. "Notable" however we can apply Wikipedia rules (ie. wide press coverage) and not get into the death counting game which is morbid and anyway not always relevant. How about Notable foodborne illness outbreaks. Finally, why do we say "foodborne illness" and not the more commonly used term "food poisoning", such as Notable food poisoning outbreaks? Green Cardamom (talk) 16:49, 13 October 2011 (UTC)

Deadliest is actually a far more clear term than incidents is. Deadliest is determined by the number of deaths, how "deadly" it was. That's an easily quantifiable number. I'm not quite sure hot to define outbreak, however. I mean, if it already has a Wikipedia article, then that's clear enough, but i'm not sure about an "outbreak" that doesn't have an article. Presumably, though, the two red links currently in the list, especially the first one, could have articles made on them, it just hasn't been done yet. So I don't think this is a big issue. Silverseren^C 00:22, 14 October 2011 (UTC)

User:Good Olfactory objected to "outbreaks". Essentially this is just a table of all ready existing articles sorted by number of dead. The press makes them notable, usually by the number of infected or the rarity of the disease, such as the case with botulism from canned food. --Richard Arthur Norton (1958- ) (talk) 01:39, 15 October 2011 (UTC)

Then it's a "List of" article? "Deadliest" really is problematic in this case. If we're going to quantify "deadliest", then we need to start deleting stuff from the article, and we probably don't want to do that. The article contains notable entries that are not all that deadly (unless 1 death = deadliest). Anyway whose to say what "deadliest" means. Green Cardamom (talk) 06:37, 19 October 2011 (UTC)

Your confusing deadliest all-over outbreak, with deadliest by each disease. One death from botulism is still the deadliest botulism case. --Richard Arthur Norton (1958- ) (talk) 22:18, 3 November 2011 (UTC)

Related article

List of food contamination incidents has some referenced incidents with deaths resulting that are not mentioned here, and that article lacks some information contained in this one. Copying relevant content between the two could improve both articles.Dialectric (talk) 12:17, 13 October 2016 (UTC)

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Possibly add the Calgary Daycare E. Coli Outbreak?

Ongoing, but might need to be added, pretty bad 2604:3D09:1F80:CA00:D15E:848B:8ED1:505D (talk) 23:23, 11 September 2023 (UTC)

I see This Sep 27, 2023 update which does not mention deaths. Do you have a reliable source that covers deaths linked to the outbreak? Dialectric (talk) 17:55, 15 November 2023 (UTC)

It ended up with no deaths in the end, despite the number of infections being in the hundreds and several cases of kidney failure. Quite remarkable 2604:3D09:1F80:CA00:9530:7901:2022:B96D (talk) 05:06, 19 November 2023 (UTC)

Can someone add the VCJD/HSBE outbreak in British Beef to the list?

178 Deaths 2604:3D09:1F80:CA00:34F5:529C:B1C2:2398 (talk) 17:47, 15 November 2023 (UTC)

In the chemical section, could someone add the 1944 Oregon Hospital outbreak of bloody vomiting caused by cockroach poison in eggs?

^ 2604:3D09:1F80:CA00:A902:269:581:AB2F (talk) 20:16, 25 November 2023 (UTC)

I have added the incident. Thanks for the suggestion. Dialectric (talk) 13:11, 26 November 2023 (UTC)

Two outbreaks worth adding

The 1919-1920 Botulism Outbreak in black olives that killed 18 people in the states. It was the first outbreak to prompt reform in food quality control and changing in procedure, and the first to be well investigated.

There's also that outbreak in Japan in the 90s that killed quite a few people. 2604:3D09:1F80:CA00:88E2:7485:9A0D:280E (talk) 05:50, 16 December 2023 (UTC)