Talk:List of films considered the worst

Transformers: The Last Knight (2017)

• Anton Bidel of Sight & Sound called it "an exhausting distillation of everything that can possibly go wrong with a blockbuster".
• Sarah Knight Adamson of Sarah's Backstage Pass said "No one has the energy or desire to care after suffering through two and half hours of a film that is nothing short of a chaotic mess".
• Yohana Desta of Vanity Fair called it "a million god-awful movies crammed into one" and went on to explain that "it succeeds only in suturing together the worst aspects of each genre".
• Julian Lytle of idobi Radio called it "one of the worst movies I've ever seen in a very long time"; at the end of his review he summarised "This movie is the complete worst".
• Dana Schwartz of Marie Clarie said "There never has been a been a worse movie than Transformers: The Last Knight" and went on to say "I spent real, American money to see the worst movie I've ever experienced my entire life".
• Periodismo.com placed on their list of "The Worst Movies of All Time"

Does anyone think these are enough to add Transformers: The Last Knight onto the list? 31.205.6.244 (talk) 07:58, 26 June 2024 (UTC)

It's bad and yes it's expensive trash but it's not the worst ever. Your first two examples are only saying it is very very bad. Some of your other examples are suitably strongly worded, but sources such as idobi Radio or Periodismo.com seem pretty marginal to me. In a year that also saw The Emoji Movie (and Baywatch (film)) it is difficult to argue that T:TLK was the worst of the year, let alone among the worst films ever made. -- 109.77.201.136 (talk) 22:39, 17 August 2024 (UTC)

Based on the sourcing, yes it qualifies for this list article. Iggy pop goes the weasel (talk) 16:56, 11 September 2024 (UTC)

References

Emoji Movie 2017

do I need to say more 108.210.109.207 (talk) 14:27, 3 July 2024 (UTC)

believe it or not, you actually do. in this case, that would be providing sources that you think could be used here. thankfully, the emoji movie's article has...a small handful of them. just be mindful of the warnings provided when editing, and see if the sources actually refer to this movie-shaped audiovisual thing as "(one of) the worst of all time". sources 6 and 7 seem to be a good start to checking cogsan _{(nag me) (stalk me)} 16:07, 3 July 2024 (UTC)

I think it is on the rejected entries list due to not being considered "one of the worst of all time" in addition to its Razzie awards not meriting it a spot here either.  Edelgardvonhresvelg (talk) 20:32, 11 September 2024 (UTC)

Delete

I believe this wiki page has nothing useful to give to humanity. I request this to be deleted. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2605:A601:A7D5:5900:8814:773B:2268:F0D (talk) 06:06, 4 August 2024 (UTC)

@2605:A601:A7D5:5900:8814:773B:2268:F0D denied 195.252.226.137 (talk) 06:48, 14 August 2024 (UTC)

This would apply to a good majority of the articles here. Explain to me how pages for Fanta cake or Fanum tax benefit humanity. Edelgardvonhresvelg (talk) 19:59, 11 September 2024 (UTC)

Advance preparation: The Crow (2024)

Rather than use the main article and get reverted, let's try this way around: talk page and use the community to work together. Particularly with this article as advance preparation:

Quote: "The Crow 2.0 is a total, head-in-hands disaster, incoherently plotted and sloppily made, destined to join the annals of the very worst and most pointless remakes ever made."

Link: https://www.theguardian.com/film/article/2024/aug/22/the-crow-review-thriller-remake?

Keep and eye on this one. We may have another addition. doktorb _words^deeds 15:49, 23 August 2024 (UTC)

Not sure about this one. "[Worst] and most pointless remake" doesn't quite translate to "worst ever" without those qualifiers. 5-minute browse of RT suggests that the "worst of..." statements are all heavily qualified, and the reviews are not uniformly negative. For what it's worth, I looked into adding Madame Web a couple of weeks ago, and it's in the same boat. "Worst recent Marvel movie" and suchlike doesn't quite equal "worst ever." Carguychris (talk) 17:23, 23 August 2024 (UTC)

Yeah, I appreciate that. I'll see if other reviews build a better picture but if not, nothing lost from trying eh doktorb _words^deeds 06:17, 24 August 2024 (UTC)

It's all good, usually I would wait for a year afterwards to test the waters before doing anything, for example when I brought up and eventually added Winnie The Pooh: Blood and Honey on here, I waited til it at least won Worst Picture at The Razzies and then searched my sources before throwing it on for discussion. That being said, The Crow is worse than Madame Web in my humble opinion though not the worst comic book movie I've seen, that goes to 2015's Fantastic Four.- Dragonsblood23 — Preceding undated comment added 06:01, 5 September 2024 (UTC)

I support waiting at least a year, as legitimate "worst ever" contenders should have a WP:LASTING effect that goes beyond the typical 1-3 month celebrity gossip news cycle. And before declaring anything to be the worst superhero movie ever, Dünyayı Kurtaran Adam, Catwoman, and the 1990 Captain America are required viewing (the latter is on my personal list even though it's not listed in the article). I'll have to check out Fantastic Four to see how it compares. Carguychris (talk) 13:34, 5 September 2024 (UTC)

For the record, three different Fantastic Fours have been removed from this list previously.

I do not really care how long a film has been out as long as the sources supports inclusion though. Razzies are nice, but they are (usually) an annual award so we should no put that much stock in them. While they crown the worst film of the year, we're looking for the worst of all time.LM2000 (talk) 18:01, 10 September 2024 (UTC)

Borderlands (2024)

Is it safe to add this to the list now? It has 9% on Rotten Tomatoes and a 4.5/10 on IMBD and was a financial failure, only grossing $31.3 million against a $110 - 120 million budget. Edelgardvonhresvelg (talk) 17:58, 11 September 2024 (UTC)

You need to cite a reliable source that uses words like "worst film ever". DonQuixote (talk) 18:14, 11 September 2024 (UTC)

In addition to what DonQuixote correctly said, the mere fact that a film is a box office bomb is not a factor, as plenty of quality films have bombed, and conversely, not all "worst ever" films have bombed (inexpensive production and a lurid premise are often a good formula for profitability). IMDB ratings in and of themselves are not typically cited on Wikipedia due to WP:UGC issues and the potential for vote brigading. A ranking on the IMDB Bottom 100 can be significant, but typically only if an outside source brings it up. (As I write this, Borderlands isn't on that list, and if you examine the list, you'll notice that 4.5/10 is actually much too good!) Carguychris (talk) 18:37, 11 September 2024 (UTC)

Here are some sources of negative reviews that put emphasis on how bad it is. They do not use terms such as "worst of all time," but they often compare Borderlands to films on this list such as Super Mario Bros. (1993). I know that financial failure does not prove a movie being bad or considered one of the worst, but I cannot think of a universally panned high-budget film in recent years that failed in both reception and box office as badly as Borderlands.

Borderlands review: This Cate Blanchett video game adaptation is a total disaster | The Independent

The Borderlands movie is such an irredeemable mess it had me longing for 1993's Super Mario Bros | PC Gamer "You might have heard the claim that this is a righting of the scale, the karmic rebalance after five-star videogame adaptations like The Last of Us and Fallout. A real Uwe Boll-style stinker to cleanse our palates and remind us that good adaptations are the exception, not the rule. We needed a new Super Mario Bros (1993)."

Is 'Borderlands' the Worst Video-Game Movie Ever? Yes, It Is (rollingstone.com) "It’s not a movie for critics, as the saying goes. Nor is it suitable for consumption by most gamers, film lovers, or 99 percent of carbon-based life forms. You seriously wonder if the sole purpose of Borderlands is to make every other video game adaptation look a thousand times better in comparison."

Borderlands review: the worst film of the year? That's putting it mildly | Evening Standard "Is Borderlands the worst film of the year? It’s definitely in contention – so laughably bad, in fact, that it feels like being catapulted back to a time when video game adaptations were a byword for mediocrity rather than the prestige vehicles they are now." Edelgardvonhresvelg (talk) 20:16, 11 September 2024 (UTC)

They do not use terms such as "worst of all time,"

That says it all. DonQuixote (talk) 21:12, 11 September 2024 (UTC)

It is still referred to as the worst video game movie adaptation of all time and is negatively compared to Super Mario Bros (1993) which is on this list. In my opinion, Borderlands still earns its spot on this list for those anti-feats. Edelgardvonhresvelg (talk) 20:43, 12 September 2024 (UTC)

From the top of the talk page

• Ensure that it is widely considered one of the worst films by a broad spectrum of both casual and professional film critics. There are hundreds of "bad" or even "crappy" films, this page is for the worst.
• Cite at least one of those sources (Preferably the most reliable one(s)) that explicitly calls it "one of the worst films ever"

DonQuixote (talk) 21:26, 12 September 2024 (UTC)