Talk:List of fictional cats in literature
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Petronius the Arbiter
editWell, that was odd.
"Petronius the Arbiter" had been listed correctly on the original page (list of fictional cats), and continued to remain so even after this page was spun off. However when this page was created, the description referred to the *original* Petronius the Arbiter, one of Nero's colleagues, and who, we can be pretty sure, was *not* a cat - while there were rumours about Caligula allegedly making goats into senators, there are no such tales about Nero. I can't ascertain when the description was changed, so I don't know if it was vandalism or an erroneous but well-meaning tag change.
Anyhow, I've changed it back! Vrillon (talk) 19:45, 15 June 2012 (UTC)
Another list for Old Possum's Book of Practical Cats?
editAt least half the cats mentioned on this list come from the book. Maybe we should set a separate section aside for the book? öBrambleberry of RiverClan 00:12, 14 February 2013 (UTC)
Cats That Should Be Added?
editFirstly, Morwen, of the Enchanted Forest Chronicles by Patricia C Wrede, has nine cats, all named and with proper personalities; is there a reason they are not included on this list? Moreover, were they to be included, should they be listed under a single entry of "Morwen's Cats," or separated into individual entries? Their names are: Miss Eliza Tudor, Trouble, Chaos, Fiddlesticks, Aunt Ophelia, Scorn, Murgatroyd, Jasper Darlington Higgins III (I think I got that right), and Jasmine. There are eventually a couple of kittens, and a few other witches' cats get names and personalities too, but those are the primary ones.
Secondly, if a fictional cat is from a book which then got made into a film, should it be listed in both places, or under the category it is most well-known in? That Darn Cat was a book long before it was a movie, for example.
Thirdly: could someone who is more familiar with the Warriors books by Erin Hunter please add some of those cats? I don't know much about them.
Aside: how, precisely, are we defining "cat"? Ex: in "Reserved For The Cat," the cat in question is actually a human who was transformed into a cat long before the story starts; you don't know that until the end, and the cat spends the whole book as a cat and is never going to change back, but there was a point at which the cat was human.
Basically: there are a lot of cats not listed here. Is that just because the list is very incomplete, or is there some qualifying criteria I am not aware of? Harumei (talk) 16:48, 17 August 2013 (UTC)Harumei
- I'm wondering this too about the criteria. What is "notable"? 86.178.149.224 (talk) 22:44, 10 February 2017 (UTC)
- Please read WP:Notability. And yes, the qualifying criteria for notability and inclusion are that: is the cat in question well known by the public, is the cat a fairly important fixture of its corresponding story, setting or franchise? Does the corresponding wikipedia articles mention and discuss the cat in question in depth? For example, Garfield the Cat, and Behemoth from "The Master and Margarita" are two notable fictional cats, whereas the cat in "Where The Red Fern Grows" is not.--Mr Fink (talk) 00:25, 11 February 2017 (UTC)
- There is an enormous number of cats in children's books, including many who are central characters. I guess that some of my personal favorites, Cindy Wheeler's "Marmalade" series (1980s, now out of print), Cynthia Rylant's "Mr. Putter & Tabby" series (in print), and Clare Turlay Newberry's cats might not be notable. Perhaps we could have a separate list and/or article for cats in children's books. (Actually, Rylant's "Mr. Putter & Tabby Pour the Tea" is really for non-"peppy" old folks like me, as much as for children, unlike the rest of that series.) Acwilson9 (talk) 03:20, 9 January 2019 (UTC) 02:50, 9 January 2019 (UTC), a "creaky" old man who is also a "crazy cat lady".
- For some more ambitious (or compulsive) editor than I:
- Perhaps reorganize all of the lists and/or articles of (notable) fictional and nonfictional cats into a single list with order-selectable columns. Each entry gets checkbox (or similar) columns for:
- - adult/children/both (but many children's books include some extraordinary graphic art for all - e.g., Clare Turlay Newberry's), and
- - each possible medium: literature/non-animated comic/theater/video/virtual reality.
- How best to handle multiple (notable) cats in a single work?
- When done, proceed to do the same for (notable) dogs, and then rabbits. (I personally am not a fan of "Watership Down", but it IS notable...)Acwilson9 (talk) 03:20, 9 January 2019 (UTC)
Do I recall correctly that there is a cat in Animal Farm? If so, methinks it ought to be added to the list. allixpeeke (talk) 05:23, 20 April 2016 (UTC)
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Pangur Bán
editWe can't know for certain, but Pangur Bán was probably not fictional, but rather a real monk's real cat. —Mahāgaja (formerly Angr) · talk 10:29, 15 December 2018 (UTC)
Warriors / Warrior Cats
editWe have the protag FireStar, but I think the previously suggested (however 6 years ago) idea of adding Warriors cast to here isn't a good idea when the cast is longer than this entire list. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Warriors_characters