Talk:List of federal by-elections in Canada
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Cause of death
editIs it really necessary to include the cause of death in the tables? -- timc talk 20:35, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
United Reform Movement colour box
editBecause the Farmer-Labour Group's political colour is "labour pink", the same as for other Labour candidates and parties in Canada, I think the United Reform Movement's box should be coloured "labour pink" as well. Thanks -Jwkozak91 (talk) 06:48, 2 December 2010 (UTC)
Completing the 3rd Parliament
editI've listed all the ridings with by-elections in reverse chronological order, the other fields need to be filled in. Follow the links to the ridings to get the information or go here Vale of Glamorgan (talk) 01:55, 12 March 2012 (UTC)
Split Article by Century or Half-Century, and have this article redirect to "Elections in Canada"
editI think that this article should be split by Century or Half-Century, and have this article redirect to "Elections in Canada".--Jax 0677 (talk) 17:12, 2 April 2012 (UTC)
- Why? I think having an article title redirect to a different page needs more of an explanation. 117Avenue (talk) 05:34, 3 April 2012 (UTC)
- The article is too long as it stands today, and therefore should be split.--Jax 0677 (talk) 22:28, 3 April 2012 (UTC)
- Too long in that you don't like scrolling? Or too big in size that it breaks the WP:SIZERULE? I don't think that the length of the page is too long, "the scope of the topic justifies the added reading time", and we have the TOC to avoid scrolling. If we are to look into sizing down the page, we can transclude the tables, like the top five are already done. 117Avenue (talk) 07:28, 4 April 2012 (UTC)
- I am removing the split tag, because an attempt to reduce the size of the article needs to be tried before going down the split route. I am considering nominating the article for deletion in any case, because it is just going to grow and there is no reason to focus on by elections like this. If the article needs to be split for size reasons then it definitely ought to be deleted IMO. Op47 (talk) 20:48, 20 July 2012 (UTC)
- It makes no difference to me whether we split or delete the article, as long as it's not too long, nor is a sortable table.--Jax 0677 (talk) 00:07, 21 July 2012 (UTC)
- I am removing the split tag, because an attempt to reduce the size of the article needs to be tried before going down the split route. I am considering nominating the article for deletion in any case, because it is just going to grow and there is no reason to focus on by elections like this. If the article needs to be split for size reasons then it definitely ought to be deleted IMO. Op47 (talk) 20:48, 20 July 2012 (UTC)
- Too long in that you don't like scrolling? Or too big in size that it breaks the WP:SIZERULE? I don't think that the length of the page is too long, "the scope of the topic justifies the added reading time", and we have the TOC to avoid scrolling. If we are to look into sizing down the page, we can transclude the tables, like the top five are already done. 117Avenue (talk) 07:28, 4 April 2012 (UTC)
- The article is too long as it stands today, and therefore should be split.--Jax 0677 (talk) 22:28, 3 April 2012 (UTC)
There's no need to split or delete the article. 74.198.9.84 (talk) 10:09, 30 August 2012 (UTC)
Revisit of Article Split discussion
editJax 0677, I am sorry I didn't get round to sorting this, you are quite right, something needs to be done. The more I look at this, the more I see it as not needed. Virtualy none of the article is referenced. I note that there are articles on each of the Canadian parliaments. How would it be if the section in this list were added to the articles on the individual parliaments and then this list were deleted. Op47 (talk) 14:20, 23 November 2012 (UTC)
- Reply - I added the Split-Apart tag back to the article to create visibility for this discussion. Unless this article is split, once this article is added to each parliament, this title should redirect to "Elections in Canada".--Jax 0677 (talk) 16:37, 23 November 2012 (UTC)
- We've already started articles for each parliament, why not continue that? 117Avenue (talk) 05:01, 24 November 2012 (UTC)
- 117Avenue, I think that is what I was proposing. See 41st Canadian Parliament for an example. Op47 (talk) 12:52, 24 November 2012 (UTC)
- As implied, I have started the process that I proposed and you seem to agree with. It is going to be a long job. My intention is each time I have to leave the job, I will revert back to the last complete version so that the public can see a coherent article. i.e. if you wish to help or see my progress, look at the previous issue to the latest. Hope that helps. Op47 (talk) 12:52, 24 November 2012 (UTC)
- Sorry, I did not mean the main articles on the Parliaments, but the articles like By-elections to the 37th Canadian Parliament. This page will remain as a summary table. 117Avenue (talk) 05:39, 25 November 2012 (UTC)
- Ok, In that case, I will create the remaining By-elections to the xth Cadadian Parliament articles and populate them with the data currently on this page. Unfortunately, I really don't have the time to flesh the articles. I still think the full parliament pages ought to include the data as I have done with the 1st ones. At least this way, people have more flexibility in referencing the information, My concerns and Jax 0677's concerns about the length of this article can be addressed immediately and you can complete the individual articles at your convenience. Op47 (talk) 12:16, 25 November 2012 (UTC)
- That's a good idea, and something we can do with the transclusions. 117Avenue (talk) 23:14, 25 November 2012 (UTC)
- Comment - Thanks for reducing the size of this article. However, the loading time for the page remains high. Shall we redirect this page to "Elections in Canada" now, or is there something else that needs to be done first?--Jax 0677 (talk) 22:29, 25 November 2012 (UTC)
- Delete the article? No! This is important information, and the article should remain. 117Avenue (talk) 23:14, 25 November 2012 (UTC)
- How would it be if this page were altered so that there are only links and no transclusions. Somewhere on the page there could be a link to (for example) List of federal by-elections in Canada (details) that has the links and transclusions? Op47 (talk) 20:49, 26 November 2012 (UTC)
- You mean move this article's content to another title? I don't see the purpose in that. 117Avenue (talk) 04:10, 27 November 2012 (UTC)
- How would it be if this page were altered so that there are only links and no transclusions. Somewhere on the page there could be a link to (for example) List of federal by-elections in Canada (details) that has the links and transclusions? Op47 (talk) 20:49, 26 November 2012 (UTC)
- Delete the article? No! This is important information, and the article should remain. 117Avenue (talk) 23:14, 25 November 2012 (UTC)
- Ok, In that case, I will create the remaining By-elections to the xth Cadadian Parliament articles and populate them with the data currently on this page. Unfortunately, I really don't have the time to flesh the articles. I still think the full parliament pages ought to include the data as I have done with the 1st ones. At least this way, people have more flexibility in referencing the information, My concerns and Jax 0677's concerns about the length of this article can be addressed immediately and you can complete the individual articles at your convenience. Op47 (talk) 12:16, 25 November 2012 (UTC)
- Sorry, I did not mean the main articles on the Parliaments, but the articles like By-elections to the 37th Canadian Parliament. This page will remain as a summary table. 117Avenue (talk) 05:39, 25 November 2012 (UTC)
- We've already started articles for each parliament, why not continue that? 117Avenue (talk) 05:01, 24 November 2012 (UTC)
Reply - Links and no transclusions sounds good to me.--Jax 0677 (talk) 09:10, 27 November 2012 (UTC)
- Then this article would cease to exist, there is no case to delete this article. 117Avenue (talk) 03:29, 28 November 2012 (UTC)
- Reply - Then it would become what is called a "Collector Article", for articles that are large.--Jax 0677 (talk) 03:48, 28 November 2012 (UTC)
- This article is no longer long, it is under 8kB. 117Avenue (talk) 05:18, 28 November 2012 (UTC)
- Sadly, I have to agree with Jax 0677 on this one. Although the article itself is now small, because it transcludes all of the other articles, the reader with see a 360k article both in terms of download time and the hit on his data allowance. By having the arrangement that I suggested then any one who wishes to see an individual article may do so without having to load all of the others, while still making the full list available to anyone who requires it. That way, both needs are met. Op47 (talk) 21:00, 29 November 2012 (UTC)
- This article is no longer long, it is under 8kB. 117Avenue (talk) 05:18, 28 November 2012 (UTC)
- Reply - Then it would become what is called a "Collector Article", for articles that are large.--Jax 0677 (talk) 03:48, 28 November 2012 (UTC)
Highlight the by-elections that were won by a different party
editI like to suggest the seats that weren't retained by the same party in the by-elections be highlighted.
This is the approach that has been made in the articles on Australian by-elections as this makes them standout to the reader of instances in which the status quo wasn't maintained.