Talk:List of cryptids

Semi-protected edit request on 19 February 2024

Remove Megalodon as its existence as an extinct creature has been proven by scientists. 2600:1010:B19C:6F3:DAF:32A5:800:999A (talk) 19:53, 19 February 2024 (UTC)

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made.
— Urro^{[talk][edits]} ⋮ 14:00, 20 February 2024 (UTC)

I don't think citations for Megalodon as a fossil are relevant. Megalodon is in the list because people are claiming it still exists. This issue would be more whether there is notable cryptozoological literature about it. (I think that it's status as a cryptid is dubious, but its existence as a fossil isn't relevant to that status.) Lavateraguy (talk) 15:41, 20 February 2024 (UTC)

There absolutely is notable cryptozoological literature about it, though its mostly skeptical in nature. KanyeWestDropout (talk) 04:45, 12 March 2024 (UTC)

Steller's sea ape

hardly seems fair to include this and so imply that Steller and the other zoologists were pseudoscientists. 142.163.195.114 (talk) 14:19, 18 March 2024 (UTC)

If RS say it is a cryptid, we do. Slatersteven (talk) 14:27, 18 March 2024 (UTC)

Oh good lord. Steller made his observation in 1741 of what was probably a northern fur seal, as the Steller's sea ape article says. Much of what was accepted as sound science then is now considered pseudoscience. Carlstak (talk) 18:53, 18 March 2024 (UTC)

Moa non cryptic

Moa is an actual extinct species of flightless birds with multiple subspecies. Went extinct after the arrival of Polynesians in New Zealand. Doesn’t seem like it should be on list NotherdayinParadise (talk) 17:04, 19 March 2024 (UTC)

True, but sightings of living ones are. Slatersteven (talk) 17:20, 19 March 2024 (UTC)

Ufology

UfO's are now a proven fact given the events, footage and hearings released by the US government and do not belong in the category of cryptids. 173.49.152.23 (talk) 04:25, 13 May 2024 (UTC)

1. UFO just means that someone has not identified it. So, it has always been a proven fact. It's like "unsolved crimes". Of course they exist.
2. If you mean aliens instead of UFOs, it is still bullshit. The US government is not a reliable source.
3. UFOs are not in the list of cryptids. They are just mentioned in passing. What exactly do you want to change? --Hob Gadling (talk) 07:55, 13 May 2024 (UTC)

this. Slatersteven (talk) 10:40, 13 May 2024 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 28 August 2024

I'm requesting that a Cryptid be added to the list. I live in Tonawanda, New York, and many locals talk about the Crow Woman of Tonawanda. She's usually described as tall, thin, extremely pale, with long dark hair, and is completely silent. She is usually seen in wooded areas, almost always seen at night, and is either prefaced by seeing a large amount of crows, or seen with a large amount of crows. Savathûn's Bride (talk) 10:42, 28 August 2024 (UTC)

You need wp:rs for this to be added. Slatersteven (talk) 10:44, 28 August 2024 (UTC)

Understandable, though it's majority local folklore. It's hard to credit folklore, unfortunately. Savathûn's Bride (talk) 00:34, 30 August 2024 (UTC)

When you originally posted this a few days ago, I was intrigued and did some research. It's not just that I couldn't find a good source; I couldn't even find it mentioned anywhere on the internet. Searching for the literal string, this Talk page is quite literally the only place on the web that it appears. I find plenty of intersection between 'crow' and 'Tonawanda', but they are all references the tribe (not the town), and either connect to historian Matthew Crow or link to sources on First Nations tribes in general that speak of the Seneca people (including the Tonawanda) and the Crow people. If it's a local legend, it appears to be a fairly recent one. If not, perhaps you can interest a researcher in writing about her? Folklorists often get their best leads from conversations that start, "You mean you really haven't heard of...?" Cheers, Last1in (talk) 12:34, 30 August 2024 (UTC)

But until then, no we can't have anything about it (read wp:undue please). Slatersteven (talk) 12:36, 30 August 2024 (UTC)

I kinda thought that went without saying? Cheers, Last1in (talk) 18:03, 30 August 2024 (UTC)

If it did, the OP would not have asked. Slatersteven (talk) 18:07, 30 August 2024 (UTC)

Then allow me to rephrase: I felt that the fact I was pointing out (1) that no one on the bloody planet had heard of it, and (2) that S Bride should really contact a folklorist if was real in any way whatsoever, and (3) that I did not in any way suggest your post was wrong, that 'it went without saying' (ie. that the only reasonable inference from what I wrote would be) that I thought the Crow Woman of Tonawanda does not belong in this encyclopaedia. I will attempt to be less subtle next time since that obviously was lost on at least one reader. Cheers, Last1in (talk) 20:39, 31 August 2024 (UTC)

Guys, everything's cool. We're all on the same page here, trying to build an encyclopedia. How about we let this end...lest that Leaping Loopy thing pay a visit? JoJo Anthrax (talk) 20:51, 31 August 2024 (UTC)

This is a fun, short read about some alleged creatures hanging out in the general area of Tonawanda (western New York state). But alas The Crow Woman is not mentioned. Perhaps she needs a better PR outfit? In any case I am not sure this single source would cut it (i.e., WP:DUE) even if "she" was mentioned, but perhaps some of the others are covered in reliable sources? The Leaping Loopy of Leicester certainly has a fabulous name. JoJo Anthrax (talk) 16:01, 30 August 2024 (UTC)