Talk:List of courts of the United States

User:Postdlf/courts

Note: This needs to be lined up with User:Postdlf/courts. Cheers! bd2412 T 15:06, 18 August 2008 (UTC)

• Also, State court. bd2412 T 04:03, 20 September 2008 (UTC)

Proposal to split by state

List of "Courts by [state]" wikilinks removed after consolidation into article. II | (t - c) 18:21, 2 July 2010 (UTC)

User:BD2412 - let's have a discussion. You say the above wikilinks are represented in the article ("transcluded"), but I don't see it but the transclusion leaves no link to the overview page. Also, if you're going to delete something, you need to make a note that it was deleted for future reference - see Wikipedia:TALK#When_to_condense_pages.

What I see in the article is wikilinks to every single little type of court in each state but no wikilinks to the overview articles. I don't agree with this approach; the minor court level in a given state should just be summarized in the overview page, and the individual pages for individual courts should only be created if there is enough sources. The Balkanization of the information is frustrating to readers who just want to see the overview and a basic high-level discussion of the court system in their state. I propose that the transclusions be eliminated and replaced with a {{Main|Court in such and such state}} and a brief summary of the court system in the state. II | (t - c) 16:48, 2 July 2010 (UTC)

That would defeat the purpose of having a single page on which the different court structures of the states could be compared. Please note that the individual pages above have little more than boilerplate along with the material transcluded into this page. bd2412 T 17:21, 2 July 2010 (UTC)

However, in further reviewing the page, I would have no objection to having a "see main" template at the head of each section. bd2412 T 17:37, 2 July 2010 (UTC)

The overview articles currently have little more than boilerplate, but ultimately they could be developed into real encyclopedia articles discussing the history, culture, reputation, civil procedure, and various idiosyncrasies of the respective court systems. II | (t - c) 18:21, 2 July 2010 (UTC)

They could, and hopefully they will. Even then, it will remain useful for this article to transclude the sections from each of those articles identifying the levels and numbers of courts in each state. bd2412 T 18:33, 2 July 2010 (UTC)

General Jurisdiction Problem Again

I had to make changes to the United States Federal Courts page because no federal court is a court of general jurisdiction. They are all limited rather heavily. It has to be an issue of federal law or a case falling under diversity jurisdiction. This differs from State courts which can hear all, or nearly all (they can't hear cases where a federal court has exclusive jurisdiction or many states have administrative bodies which have sole jurisdiction over certain types of cases such as worker's compensation), from both state and federal law. For a more detailed description see the other page I mentioned. If anyone has any questions or concerns with my changes please let me know. But there are blatant inaccuracies with the general jurisdiction tag especially when it is applied to the Circuit Courts which never have original jurisdiction. A court of general jurisdiction is, by definition, a trial court. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jdlund (talk • contribs) 18:26, 17 July 2009 (UTC)