Talk:List of companies operating in West Bank settlements
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12 September comment edit
This is not a "list of companies operating in West Bank settlements", but " a list of companies operating in West Bank settlements, as compiled by the UN Human Rights Council," which is not quite the same thing. I suggest that every individual item on the list needs an independent reference.
I also question whether it is appropriate to list here any companies other than those notable enough for a WP article--after all , we are NOT a DIRECTORY. DGG ( talk ) 18:24, 12 September 2021 (UTC)
- I agree these seems like WP:DIRECTORY. Also it seems one sided without any criticism Shrike (talk) 19:10, 18 September 2021 (UTC)
- The directory prohibition refers to simple lists without any context, here the context is fully sourced and explained. The list was also published in full by a source usually considered as supportive of Israel. Independent criticism can of course be added as well as any responses form the companies involved.Selfstudier (talk) 11:29, 19 September 2021 (UTC)
- The UNHRC involvement is explained at line 1, however I agree there is a problem with the title, something like "International companies engaged in activities related to Israeli settlements" might be better.Selfstudier (talk) 11:49, 19 September 2021 (UTC)
- Within the context, "international companies" would suggest non-Israeli companies to me, even though, theoretically, from the perspective of the list/international law, an Israeli firm operating in the West Bank may be viewed as being international. Still, I don't think it is a natural fit or bests aligns with what the common sense of a reader will expect. On a separate, more philosophical note, what is neutrality in the context of an article like this? Is neutrality accurately reflecting the information about the list, as it is presented, or is it providing contrasting viewpoints? But then, what is a contrasting point of view in this context? Arguably only an alternative list with a different methodology. Iskandar323 (talk) 12:10, 19 September 2021 (UTC)
- Neutrality is simply what reliable independent sources say about the list, no matter if they are biased, unless the bias is extreme. Note independent, the Israeli MoFA complaining about it doesn't qualify. I am not that bothered personally whether it says International (ie not Palestinian) but it is definitely wrong to say "operating in" settlements, the companies don't need to be "in".Selfstudier (talk) 12:41, 19 September 2021 (UTC)
- I think "operating in" seemed like the most convenient truncation for the title relative to "engaged in activities related to", but I guess it is a little lacking in technical precision. The longer one will make it pretty long-winded though! Iskandar323 (talk) 13:07, 19 September 2021 (UTC)
- Neutrality is simply what reliable independent sources say about the list, no matter if they are biased, unless the bias is extreme. Note independent, the Israeli MoFA complaining about it doesn't qualify. I am not that bothered personally whether it says International (ie not Palestinian) but it is definitely wrong to say "operating in" settlements, the companies don't need to be "in".Selfstudier (talk) 12:41, 19 September 2021 (UTC)
- Within the context, "international companies" would suggest non-Israeli companies to me, even though, theoretically, from the perspective of the list/international law, an Israeli firm operating in the West Bank may be viewed as being international. Still, I don't think it is a natural fit or bests aligns with what the common sense of a reader will expect. On a separate, more philosophical note, what is neutrality in the context of an article like this? Is neutrality accurately reflecting the information about the list, as it is presented, or is it providing contrasting viewpoints? But then, what is a contrasting point of view in this context? Arguably only an alternative list with a different methodology. Iskandar323 (talk) 12:10, 19 September 2021 (UTC)