Talk:List of comics solicited but never published
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Inclusion on this list
editI think that for inclusion on this list, the comic must have been printed or as near printed but never released to the public. Otherwise, you could add any proposed story. --Cameron Scott (talk) 12:23, 25 October 2008 (UTC)
- Fair enough. What about stuff that was advertised, such as Emerald Twilight before Marz took over and came up with something completely different.
- That, of course, does bring up another issue. What if a story is printed, but withdrawn and the issue replaced buy another issue. Technically, the issues were published, just different to the ones originally printed.
- Duggy 1138 (talk) 01:25, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
- Cancelled comics is an issue. Limited series, obviously, when cancelled for reason of sales, or financial reasons - whatever - are on the list, and they make sense... however, the problem is should an ongoing series get the same consideration... if we do that, once again the page will explode. Duggy 1138 (talk) 13:14, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
Technically published but pulped comics (or even published by undistributed comics) don't belong on this page... Duggy 1138 (talk) 08:16, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
Action Comics Annual #3
edit- Action Comics Annual #3 — The original story for this annual (written by Chris Claremont) was meant to be published in 1990. According to Amazing Heroes Preview Special #10 (February 1990) "And the X-citing news is about the Action Comics Annual, due out this year. It's written by none other than Marvel Mutant Man Chris Claremont, and drawn by not-often-seen Michael Golden. Watch for it." An annual with this number was eventually released in 1991 as part of the Armageddon 2001 crossover event, but contained a different story and was written by Roger Stern. [See Action Comics Annual #3 at the Grand Comics Database] Claremont's story was eventually published as Superman / Wonder Woman: Whom Gods Destroy in 1997. It was drawn by Dusty Abell and Drew Geraci rather than Michael Golden.
Seeing that Action Comics Annual #3 was actually published (although with a different story), it doesn't belong on a "List of comics that were never published". The Claremont story doesn't belong on the list either as it too was eventually published several years later as a prestige format mini-series rather than as an annual.
Mtminchi08 (talk) 17:01, 11 December 2010 (UTC)
- Do you have a source that states Whom Gods Destroy was the same story? I thought the original story from the Action Comics Annual had to do with an old girlfriend of Superman's and was related to the Invasion! mini-series from a couple years before. Or did Claremont rework it into Whom Gods Destroy? JLThorpe (talk) 01:33, 12 December 2010 (UTC)
This Claremont Superman story is such a headache for me. I actually first heard about it from editor Mike Carlin (really!) at the DC Comics booth at the 1989 Chicago Comicon. He also mentioned that Walt Simonson was working on a Superman story as well. (More on that later.) The Amazing Heroes Preview Special #10 (February 1990) citation is quoted in full. It makes no mention of Invasion! which was published January-March 1989. Rather odd that a preview special wouldn't mention a then-recent crossover. Do you have a source for that? (Not trying to be a wise guy, just curious. I really don't remember reading that anywhere.) Stories get delayed, Claremont was pretty busy with his X-Men duties at the time and then wrote a few novels after leaving Marvel. He landed at DC Comics and started Sovereign Seven in July 1995. By the time Whom Gods Destroy was published, Invasion would have been about eight years old and its understandable that both DC and Claremont would have wanted to eliminate the connection to Invasion. I suppose we could ask the "Comic Book Legends Revealed" guy. The upshot of all this for me is that after waiting eight years, I didn't even buy it.
Back to that Simonson Superman story. Amazing Heroes Preview Special #10 also contains this info on page 117: "Finally, prepare yourself for the Superman Annual this fall by none other than Walt Simonson." That story finally appeared as Superman Special #1 (1992) See Superman Special #1 at the Grand Comics Database. That was only two years late and I bought that one.
Mtminchi08 (talk) 09:04, 12 December 2010 (UTC)
- I got some of the info from the following site: http://obscure.dcuguide.com/Board/NeverProjects.htm (check the posts from July 23, 2002, 1:26 AM and 7:08 AM - there's also a mention of the Simonson Superman story). Keep in mind this is an archived message board discussion, so probably not a good reference source. As for the Invasion! info, I'm not sure where I got that. I thought it was mentioned in the original ad for the Action Comics Annual that appeared in 1990 DC books, but I can't seem to find it now. If I find it, I'll be sure to post it. JLThorpe (talk) 15:54, 12 December 2010 (UTC)
In the interest of completeness, I restored Action Comics Annual to the article.. I sent a email to Brian Cronin (of "Comic Book Legends Revealed") and he said he'll look into the matter. Even if it turns out to be the same story, it probably should remain on the list as there are other entries which were eventually published in some other form. Finally, hope you like the other additions I've made to the article in the last week. I want to add The Shadow #20 (1989) by Andy Helfer and Kyle Baker but can't locate reliable source material. Mtminchi08 (talk) 18:39, 17 December 2010 (UTC)
- Thanks. I was thinking the original should remain, as Whom Gods Destroy was an Elseworlds and, if it was the same story meant for the Annual, would have been quite different from what would have been published in 1990. Your other additions are fine. I recommend you check that link I put up above. There are some things mentioned in there like the Helix spin-off, a Huntress mini, and such that would be perfect if you had sources for them. I also added some things to the original article that have since been removed, such as the original unpublished version of Emerald Twilight, and the alternate version of Batman #428 which showed that Jason Todd survived. Personally, I think they should be readded (at the very least, Emerald Twilight should, as I believe it was advertised and solicited in its original form, and the Hal Jordan Parallax storyline was a last minute change). Plus, I think maybe a section should be added for books that were eventually published in different forms than they were supposed to (The JLA: Kid Amazo HC was published as a JLA: Classified story, and the Teen Titans Swingin' Elseworlds Special was published as Teen Titans: The Lost Annual. Maybe Action Comics Annual #3 would fall in that category. JLThorpe (talk) 19:26, 17 December 2010 (UTC)
Charlton Stuff?
editHi folks:
I noticed there wasn't a Charlton Comics section.
There were (at least) one issue each of Captain Atom and Blue Beetle, both Drawn by Steve Ditko, that were never officially released. They were eventually published in the Charlton's Bullseye Fanzine... and DC eventually did some weird "reprint" with them.
I guess Ditko was really ahead on doing his backup, The Question, for Blue Beetle, so when that title went down, those short stories ended up in one-shot, Mysterious Suspense.
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Malibu's Star Trek: Voyager
editOne suggested addition to the list; in late 1994 Malibu Comics announced it had the rights to Star Trek: Voyager, which would join its ongoing Star Trek: Deep Space Nine title in 1995[1]. I remember seeing some sample art panels published in Wizard or some other comic industry publication in 1995. Release was cancelled when Marvel got the rights to the Trek franchise for the short-lived Paramount Comics imprint (eventually leading to Marvel doing its own Voyager and DS9 comics). 136.159.160.7 (talk) 17:15, 20 December 2018 (UTC)
Missing information
editI've got some information on three comics that need to be added in:
- The Joker #10 was finally published this year as part of The Joker: The Bronze Age Omnibus.
- Two more comics need to be put in the Eclipse Comics section: Dinosaurs Attack! #2-3. It should also be mentioned that this miniseries was finally finished by IDW by the same creative team that did the first issue, but it took five issues to do so.
- If I remember right, a sequel to the DC/Image crossover story Spawn/Batman, which was going to be called Spawn/Batman: Inner Demons and would've had the Batman and Spawn battle the Joker and Clown/Violator, was announced (I can't remember when, though) but never published. The only other thing I know about it is it would've had several variant covers, the illustration from one of which was made into a statue.Malcolmlucascollins (talk) 04:44, 6 July 2020 (UTC)Malcolmlucascollins (talk) 03:18, 10 September 2019 (UTC)