Talk:List of best-selling video games

Tetris (mobile) sales are confirmed as 425 million

in this page Tetris mobile sales are described as 100 million with a source that dates back to 2010, but we have an interview with Henk Rogers from 2014, where he confirms the mobile sales, and i quote "We have 425 million total paid mobile downloads. That’s all just on mobile." Source: (https://venturebeat.com/games/mr-tetris-explains-why-the-puzzle-game-is-still-popular-after-three-decades-interview/) Pedro101015 (talk) 16:45, 12 January 2024 (UTC)

This has been discussed and beaten into the ground over the years, but Henk Rogers is not seen as a reliable source here, especially as he does not represent EA. That's why this very same claim is also excluded from that actual article on Tetris EA. -- ferret (talk) 16:54, 12 January 2024 (UTC)

Unfortunately, you're not gonna get anywhere with this. I think the people here are too stubborn Man-Man122 (talk) 14:01, 26 January 2024 (UTC)

Exactly. GesundemBrot (talk) 12:07, 20 April 2024 (UTC)

The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim Sold 60+ millons copies

Add Skyrim to the list, the game has sold more tan 60 million copies and it not appear. please add it. thanks Sources: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Elder_Scrolls_V:_Skyrim. reference: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Elder_Scrolls_V:_Skyrim#cite_note-146

https://www.gamespot.com/articles/skyrim-is-now-within-the-top-10-best-selling-games-of-all-time/1100-6515101/

https://www.statista.com/statistics/1391058/skyrim-games-sales-worldwide/#:~:text=TES%3A%20Skyrim%20cumulative%20units%20sold%20worldwide%202011-2023&text=As%20of%20June%202023%2C%20Skyrim,excluding%20mobile%2C%20since%20its%20release. Statista have the sales of many games that appear in this page of wikipedia Farenghar (talk) 20:11, 21 January 2024 (UTC)

Statista is unreliable and often uses Wikipedia itself for figures. Skyrim has been requested and discussed repeatedly, over and over. We don't include it because there's been no official statement, just a single offhanded comment by Todd Howard, in the middle of a two hour interview about a completely different game. -- ferret (talk) 20:33, 21 January 2024 (UTC)

And this is only the reason for exclude it for the page?, i remember skyrim always figure in this page and only for the comment of Todd this not appear anymore. Skyrim is top 10 games most soled and it not appear for no reason. please add it again. thanks Farenghar (talk) 21:52, 21 January 2024 (UTC)

Yes, the lack of a reliable official statement from Bethesda is a reason to exclude it. Todd is an unreliable narrator who himself tells people to take his claims with a grain of salt. -- ferret (talk) 22:40, 21 January 2024 (UTC)

When has Todd said to take his claims with a grain of salt? I think we need to see that quote before we start discounting his words entirely. Even if he said this, IGN, who did the interview, has taken the 60 million number as fact, so it makes no sense for Wikipedia to then decide it's untrue. Shivj80 (talk) 23:52, 10 February 2024 (UTC)

ferret if you don't have a response to my previous points, then I would like to put Skyrim back onto the list. Shivj80 (talk) 22:55, 26 February 2024 (UTC)

No. I simply tire of saying the same thing over and over for people who won't read the past discussions. I wasn't even the person who originally brought that up. -- ferret (talk) 23:34, 26 February 2024 (UTC)

Can we overrule the previous discussion? I've read through it before and the exclusion of Skyrim largely rests on the dubious claim that Todd Howard would lie about the sales of his own game. Just because he's made exaggerated claims before, doesn't mean it makes sense to discount his word on a totally separate topic. CD Projekt Red has lied way more than Todd yet the Witcher 3 is currently on this article. Shivj80 (talk) 02:25, 28 February 2024 (UTC)

ferret Following up on this, do we have to start a new discussion to get Skyrim back on here? Shivj80 (talk) 00:36, 21 March 2024 (UTC)

What is there to discuss? Nothing new has been presented. The information still only comes from a single throw away comment in a hour+ long interview about a different game. No further confirmation from Bethesda or Microsoft. -- ferret (talk) 01:13, 21 March 2024 (UTC)

Also, many of the games on this list and the most sold franchises list are based off of „a single throw away comment“. GesundemBrot (talk) 12:05, 20 April 2024 (UTC)

Do you really think, that you are telling Bethesda something and being cool by not putting the game on the list, even though it was on it when it had 30 million copies sold (Source: Todd again), which is hyprocritical. Also, the official Skyrim Wikipedia page itself includes the number of games sold and by that, it makes it very obvious that you hold a personal grudge against Bethesda and/or Howard. The majority opinion would agree that Skyrim should be on the list period. GesundemBrot (talk) 12:02, 20 April 2024 (UTC)

I want to throw my hat in the ring and say Skyrim should be on here. There is zero reason for it to not be here when an executive from Bethesda shared the updated sales number in an official press interview. Charizard777 (talk) 05:19, 24 April 2024 (UTC)

Todd Howard is a certified liar lol. He is known for lying and many fans criticized him especially for Starfield. Kazama16 (talk) 22:30, 7 May 2024 (UTC)

Super Mario Bros. Multi platform?

Should Super Mario Bros. Be considered Nintendo Entertainment System since that's what people primarily played it on? Sizzlepop1 (talk) 21:14, 27 January 2024 (UTC)

Issue with that is this is only part of the total as it includes stuff like Deluxe (GBC) and NES Classic (GBA) 158.135.170.184 (talk) 18:07, 29 January 2024 (UTC)

But those aren't ports, those are usually extended or added versions. Sizzlepop1 (talk) 17:06, 31 January 2024 (UTC)

NES classic is a straight port and Deluxe is a refined copy with also the Japan Mario 2 also there. But these at the end of the day are the original NES game 158.135.160.154 (talk) 03:57, 13 February 2024 (UTC)

I dont think they count as Mario Bros, rather as seperate games. GesundemBrot (talk) 12:06, 20 April 2024 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 24 February 2024

Hi there - please add Skyrim to the list of best selling videogames, as of 2023 it has sold over 60 million copies

https://www.gamesradar.com/skyrim-has-sold-60-million-copies-making-it-the-seventh-best-selling-game-ever/ 8.47.101.9 (talk) 04:22, 24 February 2024 (UTC)

 Not done: see above Cannolis (talk) 05:25, 24 February 2024 (UTC)

TES V Skyrim

According to various sources, The Elder Scrolls V - Skyrim has between 60 and 65 million downloads! It definitely needs to be added to the list! 79.238.233.101 (talk) 09:58, 21 April 2024 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 8 May 2024

Based on https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Elder_Scrolls_V:_Skyrim#:~:text=With%20over%2062%20million%20copies,greatest%20video%20games%20ever%20made. I think the actual reference is this gamespot article: https://www.gamespot.com/articles/skyrim-is-now-within-the-top-10-best-selling-games-of-all-time/1100-6515101/

Skyrim should be part of the list with 62 million copies sold. Arnagath (talk) 20:43, 8 May 2024 (UTC)

 Not done for now: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the {{Edit semi-protected}} template.

There are several discussions about this above, and more in the archives. The issue appears to be that the number is sourced to a single comment by Todd Howard, who some editors say has a history of false statements (I don't know about this person or have an opinion). This will probably remain controversial until a new source is published. Jamedeus (talk) 02:31, 9 May 2024 (UTC)

Sea of Thieves needs added to this list

Sea of Thieves announced 40 million copies sold on April 16th, 2024. This can be seen on a community post on their YouTube channel or on a post in the news section of their website. Can they be put on this list? Bushi0000 (talk) 22:28, 8 May 2024 (UTC)