Talk:List of WBA world champions
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Sonny Bill Williams
editThere is a claim on the Sonny Bill Williams page that he is the current WBA champion, as well as some dubious edits on that page. Perhaps someone from here would like to take a look. Greenman (talk) 07:27, 11 February 2013 (UTC)
Sonny Liston and Muhammad Ali
editBoth Sonny Liston and Muhammad Ali were recognized as WBA heavyweight champion soon after the WBA changed its name from the NBA. Ali was stripped of the WBA title after agreeing to a return bout with Liston which violated a newly formed rule regarding immediate title rematches. I have found sources from BoxRec.com, Ebony Magazine, HBO, and several other sources that prove this claim. Tmacmusicmagician (talk) 23:53, 4 December 2016 (UTC)
is Manuel Charr Syrian boxer?
editHis flag is Syrian but he is born in Lebanon and he is German. --CONFIQ (talk) 22:17, 29 March 2018 (UTC)
National Boxing Association becoming the World Boxing Association
editThe WBA existed as the NBA from 1921-1961. This is the list that all the NBA champions are linked to, yet every list begins at the inaugural WBA champion. We should be expanding the list of each weight class to include the NBA champions with a distinction of the change in name for the title.CaPslOcksBroKEn (talk) 15:27, 30 October 2020 (UTC)
Yeah, we could do that. BlizzyBlizz (talk) 09:05, 13 March 2021 (UTC)
Put a marker on who the real champion of the weight class
editWith WBA fracturing the belts to Super and Regular, we should put a marker to signify who is considered the real champion of the division. The Regular titles are not recognized by other sanctioning bodies if the WBA Super is vacant (e.g. IBF & WBO doesn't list Regular champs as WBA champs in their monthly rankings if Super is occupied, WBC however list's both). There are times that IBF doesn't sanction "unification fights" for WBA regular champs (e.g. Xu Can and Warrington, Xu's title isn't recognized since Super is occupied).
The scenarios to be considered "the champion" of the division:
1. Becoming Super champ.
2. If Super is vacant / vacated and no fight for the vacant Super title is announced, then Regular/Unified is "the champion".
Unique cases:
1. Alberto Machado won the Regular super featherweight title on Oct 2017, since the Super title was vacant then automatically he is considered the champion of the division but on Apr 2018 Gervonta Davis fought for the vacant Super title against another boxer. So Machado was technically considered the champion from Oct 2017 – Apr 2018. Alberto Machado is listed by both IBF and WBO as WBA champion in that time span, he was then replaced by Davis.
2. Albert Cancio was the Regular super feather champion from Feb 2019 – Nov 23 2019. Although Gervonta Davis vacated the Super title on Sep 2019, a fight announced 1 month for the vacant Super title headlining Leo Santa Cruz and Miguel Flores. Albert Cancio is also not listed by both IBF and WBO as WBA champion in that time span.
3. Kazuto Ioka had the Regular light flyweight title while Roman Gonzalez had the Super title. Roman Gonzalez formally vacated the Super title on Jan 2014, while Ioka vacated the Regular title on Feb 2014. Technically Ioka was "the champion" from Jan 2014 – Feb 2014. Ioka was listed by both IBF and WBO as WBA champion in the brief amount of time.
4. Kazuto Ioka's Regular flyweight title was not promoted to Super. He won the Regular title on Apr 2015 defending it 3 times. When Super was vacated on Sep 2016, he still defended the Regular title 2 morr times. He then vacated his title on Nov 2017. BlizzyBlizz (talk) 08:47, 13 March 2021 (UTC)
Or we could split the it into two tables. The top table would be the lineage (Super and Regular if Super is vacant) and the bottom table would be the regular champs while Super is occupied. BlizzyBlizz (talk) 08:53, 13 March 2021 (UTC)
- Don't forget the WBA 'Unified' and 'Undisputed' titles when going through all this. ;-) Mac Dreamstate (talk) 17:38, 28 April 2021 (UTC)
Background colors of Days column
editWhat do the background colors signify? I know dark blue is the current champ but the other colors (green, gold, gray)? BlizzyBlizz (talk) 08:56, 13 March 2021 (UTC)
- Good question. They were added by an IP in May 2016. It looks like they are supposed to signify the longest, 2nd longest, 3rd longest reigns (gold, silver bronze), but I can't explain the green.--Jahalive (talk) 02:35, 10 July 2021 (UTC)