Talk:List of SpongeBob SquarePants episodes/Archive 9

List

Why doesn't the list of episodes go in order of original airdate? It goes in some odd order. Koala15 (talk) 04:16, 3 August 2013 (UTC)

It goes in the order of "production date", which is the order they are made in. That is how an official episode count works. United States Man (talk) 04:18, 3 August 2013 (UTC)

I feel like it should be changed how come no other episode lists on Wikipedia go by production code. Koala15 (talk) 04:24, 3 August 2013 (UTC)

Some do, some don't, depending on the editors. This one will stay as it is, however. United States Man (talk) 04:30, 3 August 2013 (UTC)

Honestly, I don't care if it is one way or the other, but there should be some consistency. Over on the American Dad talk page there has been a very cogent discussion on this topic because their production runs do not mesh with the airings or DVD releases. I believe they eventually decided that the television air date has to be canon for a "season" by definition. A DVD release is not a television season. Using this logic, the article should either remove references to "season" (change it to DVD release) or use the actual television season numbering. I will note in passing that any way it is decided will always result in people being unhappy that their preferred order is not used. As I said, in this case, I just prefer for there to be consistency across articles. Cheers 174.65.10.224 (talk) 18:19, 19 February 2014 (UTC)

Question

Is there anyone in favor moving the episode list in order of air dates? Koala15 (talk) 04:12, 11 August 2013 (UTC)

I just explained this to you in the above section. United States Man (talk) 04:50, 11 August 2013 (UTC)

Yeah well i would like to see some other opinions. That's all. Koala15 (talk) 04:53, 11 August 2013 (UTC)

There is no good reason to list the episodes in order of airdate. The order that the producers use for the DVD sets can be considered canon. DJ1AM (talk) 19:30, 15 August 2013 (UTC)

"The order that the producers use for the DVD sets can be considered canon" OMG. Since when, and according to whom? 174.65.10.224 (talk) 18:31, 19 February 2014 (UTC)

174.65.10.224, For the record, this conversation (and the one above) is six months stale. In response, obviously the "canon" argument is not a well-conceived one. None of us know how or why episodes air in a particular order or why they appear on a DVD in another order. And I would suspect that the producers have as much input in such ordering as they do in the design of merchandise, which is to say they probably have very little input. I don't even know what "canon" means in terms of a show like SpongeBob. Like there's a perfect order to how the episodes must be watched for one to absorb the true meaning of the show? The show has a reset button. Anyhow, if we allow the tables to be sortable, people can order the episodes however they want. That conversation is closer to the bottom of the page, so if you have an opinion, you might want to weigh in there, since it's possible nobody will read comments this far up. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 19:13, 19 February 2014 (UTC)

Episodes vs Individual episodes vs segments vs ?

The edit volley that was triggered by this edit and continuing with [1], [2], [3], [4], etc., should be resolved here on the talk page, since we're starting to get a little pissy in the edit summaries. I don't particularly care what we arrive at, as long as the result is not confusing. The original version, "356 individual episodes" is redundant, because we wouldn't otherwise be talking about 356 duplicate episodes. This was replaced with "187 episode blocks (totaling 356 individual episodes)", which uses the word "episode" twice to describe two different things, and the redundant "individual" was restored. My version, "187 episodes (totaling 356 eleven minute segments)" was kaiboshed because as United States Man pointed out, not all segments were 11 minutes. But that was changed to "187 episodes (totaling 356 individual segments)" which again includes the redundant word "individual", so it's not materially better than the original. So, what's the best way to express this? 187 episodes containing 356 stories? Cartoons? Segments? Should we cut the entire sentence, as it is ephemeral (i.e. relevant only for a fleeting moment until the next episode airs)? Two editors so far have a problem with the word "individual", so that, technically is the consensus thus far. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 04:40, 29 November 2013 (UTC)

In my opinion i think we should just put 187 episodes and that's it. Koala15 (talk) 05:27, 29 November 2013 (UTC)

Assuming the number is accurate, that makes sense to me. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 08:05, 29 November 2013 (UTC)

What Season?

I just found out that there will be a new spongebob special. I'm just wondering if it will be in season 9 or 10. — Preceding unsigned comment added by NolanCRules (talk • contribs) 22:18, 24 December 2013 (UTC)

Episode table style

I believe the episode table that I edited and published on February 5, 2014 should used, instead of current table used, that is connected to SpongeBob SquarePants (season 1), SpongeBob SquarePants (season 2), etc... — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mr. Daniel Zapata (talk • contribs) 22:13, 5 February 2014 (UTC)

We don't achieve consensus by voting, we achieve consensus through discussion. Your vote is noted, but you need to argue why your version is preferable over the current version. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 22:21, 5 February 2014 (UTC)

agreed, I see no reason why the current version is not preferable. Frietjes (talk) 23:02, 5 February 2014 (UTC)

Season 6 Production Code Number Problem

This isn't right. Can someone please put back Season 6 in the right production code number? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.81.41.145 (talk) 17:36, 14 February 2014 (UTC)

Hi, it's unclear what you are asking. S6 doesn't list any production codes, and even if it did, how would we verify they are correct? Production codes are typically used internally by production companies, i.e. Nickelodeon, and are difficult to source. A common mistake I see, is that people assume that a TV episode airing in the Season 1 episode 14 slot of a series always means "Production code 114", when it could be ANY string of numbers or letters, and could have been produced first, but shown much later. So if you have a different take on this, please explain, and preferably source. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 19:03, 14 February 2014 (UTC)

Did you look at SpongeBob Episodes on SpongeBob Wiki? They show the production code numbers there. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.81.41.145 (talk) 19:39, 14 February 2014 (UTC)

I assume you're talking about some Wikia site? Wikia is not a reliable source. Anyone can edit it and it's typically full of factual errors and speculation. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 19:57, 14 February 2014 (UTC)

But why go with the DVD order? Why not put it back the way it was? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.81.41.145 (talk) 21:20, 15 February 2014 (UTC)

What's wrong with the DVD order? Cyphoidbomb (talk) 00:46, 16 February 2014 (UTC)

Nothing, but the production code number is more better than the DVD order. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.81.41.145 (talk) 00:50, 16 February 2014 (UTC)

Hi, firstly, it appears that you're complaining about the current order without explaining why the order you are proposing is "better". I asked you to tell me what's wrong with the current order, and you said "nothing" and then said that the other order is better. If there's nothing wrong, then there's nothing better. Using potentially phony production codes are in no way "better". That might be the editorial standard at Wikia, but not here. If you think the episodes should be sorted by airdate, that's easily remedied by making the table sortable. And I still don't understand what confusion the current order is presenting for you. If you're trying to find out details about "The Slumber Party", you can still find out when it aired. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 01:04, 16 February 2014 (UTC)

What I meant was, I liked it just the way it was before it was changed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.81.41.145 (talk) 05:07, 16 February 2014 (UTC)

I love spongebob so much xD Ultbee (talk) 13:57, 15 June 2016 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 17 February 2014

The episode "It Came from Goo Lagoon (A.K.A SpongeBob vs The Goo)" is the start of season ten and it's not listed here.

Could you please put it on the list? 2602:306:CF60:C300:28CE:8B45:2929:EBE1 (talk) 23:45, 17 February 2014 (UTC)

Do you have a reliable source that supports this request? Goo Lagoon is listed in S9. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 00:39, 18 February 2014 (UTC)

Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. — {{U|Technical 13}} ^{(t • e • c)} 02:12, 18 February 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 2 March 2014

Hey all. Just a friendly note, the page down below looks awkward and messed up. It's in the "Season 9" section. I believe it's on the transclusion or something. I have saved an archive of that version in case you can't see it. [5] As you can see, the footnotes, season 9 table, season 10 section, etc. are mixed up. BTW, that archive is as of March 2, 2014. Please fix it. Thanks. 203.215.116.200 (talk) 06:30, 2 March 2014 (UTC) 203.215.116.200 (talk) 06:30, 2 March 2014 (UTC)

There is nothing wrong with the current revision. United States Man (talk) 13:03, 2 March 2014 (UTC)

Not done: it's not clear what changes you want made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format. * I've looked it all over and am not seeing anything wrong myself. This does not mean that there is nothing wrong, and I encourage you to be much more clear in what you think is wrong, why you think it is wrong, and what you think should be done to fix it. Then, we can move forward. Thanks for your interest in contributing to the English Wikipedia! — {{U|Technical 13}} ^{(t • e • c)} 14:50, 2 March 2014 (UTC)

Animation Director vs. Director

In the episode list, there is a column titled "Animation Directors". Are the people listed in this column in fact the animation directors.... or, are they the episode or show director? I am suggestion this column is mis-labeled and needs to be corrected... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.10.152.64 (talk) 20:17, 16 March 2014 (UTC)

What do you think they should be corrected to? Cyphoidbomb (talk) 02:20, 17 March 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 18 April 2014

There should be two episodes after Spongebob Your Fired. Sponge or Treats and Brainless. 108.80.133.32 (talk) 22:43, 18 April 2014 (UTC)

Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 22:59, 18 April 2014 (UTC)

Production codes

According to a few sources on the internet, the production code of the episode "SB-129" is "SB-129" -- the producers named the episode after its production code. You'll notice that the episode is the 28th segment in the season (27th not counting the pilot) so I think the production code is legit.

Has anyone been able to find any other production codes for this show in the "SB-XXX" format? Or were they never released? As far as I can tell, "SB-XXX" was the proper production code format for this series at least in that season. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.41.215.138 (talk) 03:36, 8 May 2014 (UTC)

Hi, according to my rudimentary understanding of how these sorts of programs work, every 11-minute cartoon could feasibly have its own "production code", which is an internal numbering system used by studios for a variety of purposes, but most of them related to billing and juggling assets and coordinating projects. I (anecdotally) recall seeing years ago some photos of an animation studio's whiteboard that was gridded out with, like, 52 cartoon segments, and each one had been assigned a production code from 101 to 152. But when the series was released, they were only 26 episodes, again with a new numbering system. So now they might have paired segment 101 with segment 122, and called it episode 105, which is a completely different "production code". So I'd imagine that in some cases, what everybody's calling a "production code" in most animation articles isn't even that--it's an "episode code" or something similar. And even if we could support that S1E14a was internally referred to as "SB-129", does that help us if we can't support the other hundreds of SpongeBob episodes with reliably sourced production codes? Nickelodeon doesn't always release episodes in production sequence. For all we know, that ep was produced second and held back for months. Or produced last week and sent backward through a temporal anomaly. Who knows. (Okay, maybe not that.) Cyphoidbomb (talk) 05:23, 8 May 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 27 May 2014

Do you guys know about Squidwards Suicsde Banned Epiosde due to it meant scare childen

Sonic99swell (talk) 21:16, 27 May 2014 (UTC)

@Sonic99swell: Please address what you want changed, where you want it changed, and give WP:Reliable_sources please. Thank you. --JustBerry (talk) 21:20, 27 May 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 4 May 2015

189.217.85.1 (talk) 04:15, 4 May 2015 (UTC)

Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 05:05, 4 May 2015 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 6 June 2015

A new episode has been made for the new season 10. It is called "Yeti Krabs" and was released on 5/29/15. 99.7.57.93 (talk) 21:44, 6 June 2015 (UTC)

Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and please provide sources that support that air date. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 03:48, 7 June 2015 (UTC)

Segments

We should add a segment column next to the episode column on the series overview table. Paleocemoski 22:23, 2 December 2015 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 21 February 2016

in February 16, 2016, creative director Vincent Waller announced that the series has been renewed for a eleventh season. 201.75.78.25 (talk) 18:57, 21 February 2016 (UTC)

Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. clpo13_(talk) 19:50, 21 February 2016 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 1 August 2016

I have the names of 2 episodes for season 10. Mermaid pants and whirly brains. These were confirmed by Vincent Waller. We should start to page NOW. 66.30.148.21 (talk) 19:02, 1 August 2016 (UTC)

Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 19:14, 1 August 2016 (UTC)

Incorrect episode segments.

The 2 season 10 episodes Whirlybrains and mermaidpants are not 205a and 205b respectively. It has been confirmed that there are 2 episodes that ARE 205a and 205b. ??? should be there instead. -_- 66.30.148.21 (talk) 19:00, 30 September 2016 (UTC)

Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. EvergreenFir (talk) 19:47, 30 September 2016 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 4 October 2016

Can you please fix a link error in the Season 1 section?

Change I Was A Teenage Garry (SpongeBob SquarePants) to I Was a Teenage Gary. 66.87.130.235 (talk) 00:17, 4 October 2016 (UTC)

Done Fixed it. Must have been made a redlink following a move. Class455 (talk) 10:33, 4 October 2016 (UTC)