Talk:List of Royal Navy shore establishments

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Does anyone know of the existence of a former shore establishment that went by the name of HMS Sea Eagle? Douglasnicol 21:53, 13 March 2006 (UTC)

HMS President III?

HMS President III is supposedly described as the accounting base for gunners on Defensively Armed Merchant Ships in Lt Cdr. Warlow's Shore Establishments of the Royal Navy. But I have not seen that source myself. Can anybody confirm this? Abu ari 17:13, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

Merge proposal

Support: Self-evident. Is there anybody out there with time on their hands? John Moore 309 16:38, 17 January 2007 (UTC)

I think there is more mileage in mergine this with the other article, since there is already more content there. It's a question of semantics though, I prefer the other title.ALR 15:23, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

Former Establishments

Is there a comprehensive list of former short establishments anywhere? I am sure I came across one on the Internet some time ago but can't find anything now. Should this section be expanded to try and collect together a definitive list? Also is there a list anywhere of Ports as in "Port A", "Port Z" etc --jmb 12:26, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

HMS Caroline

Talking to old sailors I have gained the impression that during World War II that HMS Caroline (a real ship, with no engines in WWII) took over many land-side buildings and offices in its role as the Royal Navy HQ in Belfast Harbour. Does anybody know any more about this and if true would it come under the heading "shore establishment"?--Thefrood 09:40, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

I get the impression that quite a number of shore establishments started out as a ship moored in the harbour then moved to a suitable building and the same name used. Stornoway was HMS Mentor, I think there was a ship moored in the harbour initially but they moved to Lews Castle and kept the same name. I also notice that some of the Coastal Forces shore establishments had a series of numbers suggesting that there were annexes in other areas which were given sequential numbers. --jmb 11:05, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

As Belfast developed into a major naval base during World War II, it outgrew the confines of HMS Caroline herself and occupied different establishments in various parts of the city. Eventually several thousand ratings were wearing Caroline cap tallies. The first such establishment was set up in the Belfast Custom House. Later, Belfast Castle was taken over and included a radio station.

There were depth charge pistol and “Hedgehog” repair workshops associated with Caroline some of which would have been on the quays beside her berth in Milewater Basin.

During the early part of the war when RAF Belfast occupied Sydenham (Belfast harbour) airfield, FAA personnel based there were were lodged under HMS Caroline. In 1943 the airfield was transferred to the Admiralty and commissioned as HMS Gadwall. Geologue 13:36, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

Ceres Division

As I understand it Ceres was supposed to independently commission in April of this year, but I've not seen anything in more detail about that. Once there is some more concrete information we could do with amending it.

ALR (talk) 09:04, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

Regionalisation

Noting the recent confusion about Ceres parenting it's probably worth highlighting the regionalisation process which has recently taken place, with RNR units consolidating HR management in a single unit, with training management and divisional care remaining with the local RTC. The regional units are President, Eaglet, Flying Fox and Scotia, hence Eaglet runs the pay account for Ceres. As part of the consolidation some staff have been moved around.

ALR (talk) 09:04, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

Alpha Sort

The former establishments have some idiosyncracies of sort order in this article. HMS comes forst, then RNAD as if the prefix is important, not the establishment name, and 'St estab name' is sorted under S not under estab name. The only reason I have not touched this is that it might genuinely be the naval way! But, if you know different, it could do with re-ordering. Fiddle Faddle (talk) 09:04, 14 May 2012 (UTC)

RNH Greenwich

I'm not sure that Greenwich was ever an 'RNH' only ever being referred to as Greenwich Hospital

Petechilcott (talk) 23:19, 29 June 2012 (UTC)

HMS Siskin

Although Sultan now stands on the site, I've added in HMS Siskin formerly RAF Gosport

Institute of Naval Medicine

Debatable where this sits but it's there now

Petechilcott (talk) 23:44, 29 June 2012 (UTC)

At present there is no HMNB Singapore/Sembawang

It is just a logistic depot, co-owned with the US Navy now.

Cantab1985 (talk) 03:07, 13 June 2016 (UTC)

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HMS Victory

On the List of ships named HMS Victory page it says there were up to 8 shore establishments called HMS Victory in WWI, yet none are recorded here. Is there a reason they aren't listed? Obscurasky (talk) 19:38, 20 January 2019 (UTC)