Talk:List of Ring characters
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Merge with Kazuyuki Asakawa, Reiko Asakawa, Yoko Asakawa, Yoichi Asakawa, Ryuji Takayama, and Sadako Yamamura
editNeither of the characters in this media franchise are sufficiently independently notable to justify their own articles. All of the information presented on their articles is already included in this list. As such, Kazuyuki Asakawa, Reiko Asakawa, Yoko Asakawa, Yoichi Asakawa, Ryuji Takayama, and Sadako Yamamura should be merged here. Neelix (talk) 14:47, 8 June 2010 (UTC)
Glaring mistakes
editThis article is full of glaring mistakes.
1. Asakawa Kazuyuki's wife is Shizuka, not Shizu. Clearly referenced as such on the Ringworld, and the Russian translation by Fyodor Derkach (http://www.susi.ru/ring) confirms that as well, as does Ring: Kanzenban, where his wife is clearly referred to as Shizuka-chan at one point. "Shizu" is nothing but a mistake in the English translation of the novel (and in subsequent retranslations of it into other languages).
2. The codes in Rasen. The novel has two, 178 136 which, when broken do wn as 17 8 13 6, spells "RING", and another code which is found in Ryuji's DNA and spells "Mutation". The movie has a single code which breaks down to "Surprise", and the TV series has yet another code.
3. Sadako's backstory, as presented, is as it occurred in the theatrical movies. In the novels, she was born in 1947, and successfully predicted the 1957 eruption of Mt. Mihara (prediction attributed to her mother Shizuko in the theatrical movies), as well as submitted two nensha plates to Dr. Miura Tetsuzu, who is referrences as the man who collected information about all people in japan with ESP. One of said plates contains the kanji "yama" (mountain), first half of her last name (Yamamura), which looks identical to how the character appears in the cursed video.
Her mother is discredited at Ikuma's demonstration because she fails to correctly see the numbers of the rolling dice because, as explained in the Ring novel, the combined energy of all the people willing her to fail, is stronger than her ESP, causing her ESP to fail. Sadako's ESP however is much stronger and to it, the combined energy of the ill-willing people is, like Ryuji says, "a fart in a windstorm". Sadako, hence, actually sees the dice and the dice appear in the cursed video. Her mother dies by throwing herself into Mt. Mihara.
At age 19, she graduates from high school and joins the Hishou Acting Troupe. Her father attempts to obtain ESP of his own, but all he manages to obtain, is tuberculosis, which is slowly leading him to his death. At the troupe, Shigemori comes to her home in order to have sexual intercourse with her but somehow ends up horrified and dies of heart failure (exact same cause as the victims of the videotape 30 years later) the next day. The members of the troupe think he died because he was overworked and overstressed due to the upcoming premiere.
Sadako starts a romantic relationship with Toyama Hiroshi, the sound technician of the troupe, and eventually they end up in a very intimate situation in which Sadako manually pleases Toyama to orgasm, the event being recorded onto an audio tape, but all 5 people who hear the tape, die of heart failure, making it the very first cursed tape.
Sadako regularly visits her father at the South Hakone Sanatorium, and there meats Dr. Nagao Joutarou. One day, Nagao had contracted smallpox and due to smallpox-induced fever effects, loses control, takes Sadako to a nearby well, and rapes her. She bits his shoulder. He looks at her genitalia and notices she has Androgen Insensitivity Syndrome. Ashamed of him having discovered her secret, she mentally threatens him with murder. In self-defense, he strangles her, throws her into the well, and attempts to cover her body by throwing rocks into the well.
Eventually, the sanatorium is closed, and its land gets sold to Pacific Resorts, who build a resort there. Eventually, the resort is equipped with VCR's from a nearby hotel which got recently torn down, and in late august 1990, a grade-school kid from the Kaneko family goes out to play tennis with his sister while recording his favorite TV show from the wrong channel (he mistakenly inputs the Tokyo frequency), while his parents watch their favorite TV show. Sadako's posthumous thoughts just so happen to be strong enough, on the right frequency, and in the right format, for the VCR to pick them up as a valid TV signal, and recording them.
The Kaneko family leaves, forgetting the videotape in the cabin. Some days later, on August 29th, Oishi Tomoko, Iwata Shuuichi, Tsuji Youko, and Nomi Takehiko, enter the cabin, find the videotape, watch it, brush it off as a joke (though at least Tomoko is actually afraid of it, as shown in the beginning of the Ring novel), and record a random TV commercial on top of the part of the final written message, which tells the viewer how to avoid death.
4. The relationship between Ryuji and Mai. Mai is visibly infatuated with him in Ring 2, to the point of getting angry at Dr. Kawajiri for not having attended Ryuji's funeral despite claiming to be Ryuji's friend.
In the novels, on the other hand, is where the relationship is unclear. Mai was in love with Ryuji, yes, as shown in Rasen, but it's unclear whether Ryuji reciprocated her feelings at all.
It's clear Mai has feelings for Ryuji in both the movies and the novels, but both make it very unclear, whether Ryuji reciprocated the feelings or not. - 94.140.73.150 (talk) 13:09, 29 March 2011 (UTC)
Is the cursed videotape from the Ring real in our world or not true? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.208.204.81 (talk) 20:33, 29 November 2011 (UTC)
Questionable Statement about Influences for Sadako
editThe article says: "From Oiwa, Sadako takes the single, misshapen eye." - isn't that an overinterpretation? Showing the face of a protagonist from so close a distance that only one eye is visible is frequently done to express a variety of things, e.g. intensity or direct eye contact, but it rarely is meant to imply that the character has only one eye, or that the eye would look very different from the other one. 85.180.3.209 (talk) 16:45, 20 January 2013 (UTC)