Talk:List of Indian chess players

DYK nomination

The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Vincent60030 (talk) 18:08, 20 September 2020 (UTC)

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• ... that India has 66 chess grandmasters? Source: 66 GMs and counting: The story behind India's chess surge Chennai’s G. Akash becomes India's 66th Grand Master

• Reviewed: This is my 1st DYK nomination and I am still learning the review process, hence didn't do a DYK review as per QPQ.
• Comment: Tough the article was created in 2013, as on 15 August 2020 it was in a poor state. I have taken the list from 2 KB to 90 KB mainly in the last 10 days with the prose mainly written on 12 September 2020. The work included a lot of research, collection of data from numerous sources and creation of around 10 long Excel Sheets. I believe due to recent win of Gold medal by the Indian team at Online Chess Olympiad, a lot of people might be interested in this article both from within and outside India.

5x expanded by Roller26 (talk). Self-nominated at 17:55, 12 September 2020 (UTC).

General: Article is new enough and long enough
New enough: Long enough:

Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Adequate sourcing: Neutral: Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:

Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Cited: Interesting:

QPQ: None required.

Overall: New reviewer. Asking for 2ndop. -- PythonSwarm ^{T | C | G} 23:56, 12 September 2020 (UTC)

• @PythonSwarm: please do not put the review above the line given in the nomination. There is normally a given ":*" where you begin your review/comments. Also a comment here: I doubt the hook is interesting. Reads dull for me. Welcoming other reviewers for input. Thank you for reviewing though :D Vincent^LUFan (talk) (Kenton!) 08:24, 13 September 2020 (UTC)

• The hook sounds impressive enough to me. Yoninah (talk) 11:22, 13 September 2020 (UTC)

• The reviewer has been indefinitely blocked due to WP:COMPETENCE issues; a complete new review is needed since the one that was done cannot be counted on to correctly cover DYK criteria. BlueMoonset (talk) 16:36, 14 September 2020 (UTC)

• Second review: 5x expansion verified. New enough, long enough, neutrally written, well referenced. As no refs are displayed on Earwigs, unable to check for close paraphrasing, but most refs appear to be verifying statistical information. The hook is interesting, but we need a cite for it. You list 66 Grandmasters, but how do we know that's all there are? Please add an introductory line under "Grandmasters" stating that there are 66 from India and supplying a source. Also, should "grandmasters" be lowercase in the article as in the hook? No QPQ needed for nominator with less than 5 DYK credits. Yoninah (talk) 18:35, 14 September 2020 (UTC)

• Yoninah, the main section of Titled Players has all the statistics regarding grandmasters and other titled players including all the citations including the 2 listed above. Hence I didn't feel the need to add introductory line before each title subsection. Let me know if it works or should be changed. The All India Chess Federation (AICF), the controlling authority of chess in India updates its list of registered players (90+ K) including all rated, titled players and grandmasters every month [1]. This source link is also cited in the article and is updated as of September 2020. The chess articles on WP that I have found all use Grandmaster in Upper case, so probably I should update the hook? Let me know anything that needs changing. Thanks. Roller26 (talk) 18:52, 14 September 2020 (UTC)

• Facepalm You have to believe me that I read through the whole article. And the source is ESPN, no less. Hook ref verified and cited inline. While all the titles are consistently capitalized in the article, I think it would look jarring to capitalize Grandmasters in the hook, so let's leave it as is. (Anyway, it attracted my attention!) Good to go. Yoninah (talk) 19:02, 14 September 2020 (UTC)

Yoninah Thanks. Roller26 (talk) 19:32, 14 September 2020 (UTC)