Talk:List of Denmark Twenty20 International cricketers

Capped in alphabetically order

Shouldn't they be awarded caps in alphabetically order? At least the order right now doesn't make any sense, and I can see Australia and New Zealand are done like that. so the order should be this. I'm on a netbook atm., so I can't tell where one row stops and the next start.

1. Saif Ahmad
2. Taranjit Bharaj
3. Oliver Hald
4. Abdul Hashmi
5. Jino Jojo
6. Delawar Khan
7. Nicolaj Laegsgaard
8. Bashir Shah
9. Hamid Shah
10. Zishan Shah
11. Anique Uddin

@Moedk (talk) 19:04, 16 June 2019 (UTC)

@Moedk No. It should not be like that. The list grows as the number of players debut for a country and the players get added at the end of the list. If this list needs to be arranged in alphabetical order it becomes highly time taking to rearrange all the players after every time someone debuts. In case you refer the sources mentioned in the page, those also gets updated on basis of debut only, not alphabetically. Hence it does not make sense to arrange this in above mentioned order. I am reverting the changes you made. mitratanmoy 5:58, 18 June 2019 (UTC)

@Mitratanmoy: my post above was made when only the first eleven was listed, and regards the order of the first eleven, or any time later when more than one player has a debut. You haven't given a reason for why those first eleven should be in the order they was. As I wrote those first eleven they should be in alphabetical order just like the list I referred to. Notice I didn't move Rizwan Mahmood up the list, even though he was added after my suggestion but before my edit. --Moedk (talk) 06:26, 18 June 2019 (UTC)

@Moedk The list is in synch with source which are used to update all the stats. Now I am unaware why they have ordered differently for Australia and Denmark. But this source is being used by everybody and this is the template everybody follows even though you find it unreasonable. And requesting you to get confirmation from the creators of any page before doing such changes as this becomes hard for them to track. :@Bs1jac: As you are the creator of this list and modifying this page daily, your insights will be helpful. mitratanmoy 06:42, 18 June 2019 (UTC)

Cricinfo has this order, so in lieu of any other sources, this list should follow this order. Lugnuts ^{Fire Walk with Me} 07:44, 18 June 2019 (UTC)

Ok, I reverted back to the silly order, and complained to CricInfo, hopefully they will fix their ordering.--Moedk (talk) 16:26, 18 June 2019 (UTC)

The order is not in error. Cricinfo lists some players (usually with Muslim names) by full name rather than surname and initials. e.g. 'Rashid Khan' and not 'Khan R'. I don't fully know why, but this has always been the case for all teams. Bs1jac (talk) 18:16, 18 June 2019 (UTC)

The same rule would apply to Australia if two players debuted at the same time, and one of those players was listed in this format. e.g. if Rashid Khan was Australian and made his debut on the same day as Shaun Marsh, 'Marsh SE' would be listed before 'Rashid Khan' despite Marsh being later alphabetically than Khan. It is the way CI does it and this is the key source for most stats. It tends to only be noticeable on teams with a lot of players with such names, and in particular for the first 11 players. I don't know what determines whether a names is in one format or another. Bs1jac (talk) 18:25, 18 June 2019 (UTC)

So Bashir Shah is sorted by full name and Hamid and Zishan Shah by surname, that makes sense (missing a confused emoji here). --Moedk (talk) 22:47, 18 June 2019 (UTC)

Zishan Shah is sort under 'Z' at CI, my mistake, but Hamid Shah is sorted under 'S'.--Moedk (talk) 00:56, 19 June 2019 (UTC)

As I said, I don't know the reasons, but like others before me, I follow the structure as per the source. That means tagging some players as 'full name' and some as 'surname'. Took me a while to get used to it, but it's not a big deal especially after the first xi. Bs1jac (talk) 09:23, 19 June 2019 (UTC)

Denmark - Finland 2019-07-13

The scorecard for the first match is here http://www.totalcricketscorer.com/TCSLive/TCSScorecard.aspx?id=74360 Moedk (talk) 12:10, 13 July 2019 (UTC)

Klokker as keeper

I can see I forgot a "not" in my edit note, but Fredrik Klokker was not wicketkeeper in Denmark's match against Sweden on August 15, 2021. Here is the the scorecard that CricInfo has copied from, apparently CricClubs, doesn't mark the wicketkeeper so CricInfo has just guessed. Here is the scorecard by the other scorer and it has Taranjit Bharaj as keeper. --Moedk (talk) 17:02, 15 August 2021 (UTC)

@Bs1jac: Klokker hasn't kept wicket in a T20I, it is made up by CricInfo, I have linked to the scorecards of the two scores of the match in my comment above. --Moedk (talk) 14:16, 16 August 2021 (UTC)

@Moedk: Hi - I did think it was odd. Difficult when Cricinfo don't get the correct info sent to them. We use Cricinfo as the primary source as we can't point every detail to different locations; usually they do correct these things after a few days once (if) they receive the official scorecards. Bs1jac (talk) 14:19, 16 August 2021 (UTC)

CricInfo haven't asked for a scorecard/sheet, as mentioned they probably copied of the one from CricClubs. I think a scoresheet has to be sent to ICC within 30 days, so it might take a while before that happens. --Moedk (talk) 14:34, 16 August 2021 (UTC)

Yeah that's correct they generally get it from the ICC after a while. I have a couple of contacts at Cricinfo so I can try pointing them to the correct scorecard. Bs1jac (talk) 15:50, 16 August 2021 (UTC)