Talk:List of Carnegie libraries in Oregon

Latest comment: 5 years ago by 75.164.3.239 in topic Pacific University

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There is also a private Carnegie Library that was built at Pacific in Forest Grove. (See Hillsboro Public Library). (info). Katr67 (talk) 05:50, 24 June 2009 (UTC)Reply

Yeah, there were dozens of educational libraries granted across the country, but the information on them (even from the Carnegie Corporation) is scant at best. The content is certainly encyclopedic, I'm just not sure where to put it yet. Typically the educational libraries aren't counted in lists of "Carnegie libraries" which were implicitly free. --McMillin24 contribstalk 06:02, 24 June 2009 (UTC)Reply
I see this was being discussed. I added the Pacific one with a cite, but also see this and if you have access to NewsBanks' historical newspapers collection that includes The Oregonian, pacific university carnegie turns up 164 hits, which includes the granting of the funds (needed a university match), a request to increase the amount after the school raised $30k, a visit by someone from the Carnegie folks, and a denial of increase among others. Aboutmovies (talk) 06:34, 24 June 2009 (UTC) More on the grant. Aboutmovies (talk) 06:39, 24 June 2009 (UTC)Reply
Oh, I'm fully certain Pacific's was funded by Carnegie—I see I didn't clarify that very well above. The sources I have (several books, sourced on the list page) indicate a $20,000 donation in 1905 to Pacific. The issue I'm concerned about is that lists and summaries of Carnegie libraries always separate educational donations because they weren't free public libraries, as all the others in Oregon were. Here you'll see that even the Carnegie Corporation files (what's left of them on microfilm) list academic buildings separately from free public libraries, so I feel we should separate them also. Ultimately, I'm most interested in consistent lists for all the states—as I noted in the main article, there are inconsistencies between all of the books in print, most of which are at least 40 years old. My suggestion is to group all of the academic libraries in the US (I think there are just about 100 in total) in one article, linking to it from respective state pages and noting their intended purpose, which was markedly different in Carnegie's mind from free libraries. But for now, thanks for adding so much information today! I created these sort of bare bones starters hoping that people with a bit more local knowledge will help out, and Oregon is about the first article to take off. Just a couple things to think about: the article for NYC libraries has a key which I'd like to adapt to all states—it'll make the notes section generally more concise. And the locations (which are often difficult to find for razed libraries, but access to old newspapers helps a lot here) are really nifty with {{GeoGroupTemplate}}—it gives you a sense of how much a state Carnegie's donations reached. --McMillin24 contribstalk 06:56, 24 June 2009 (UTC)Reply
Might I suggest something similar to this list where current and former items are listed on the same page, but in different sections. As in move Pacific and any other non-public ones that may show up into a separate section, each with a proper header (Public, Private). Otherwise, with the title of the article as is, you will likely come across this same problem nationwide. Plus trying to limit it to only the free public ones when the title is as it is, could come across as original research and maybe even WP:OWN. Then still have a separate list for the college ones as you mentioned, but not break it down by state as I would guess most states would only have a few. Aboutmovies (talk) 07:17, 24 June 2009 (UTC)Reply
The Arleta Library in SE Portland IS on the National Registry Of Historic Places. It is a recording studio now. I work there75.164.3.239 (talk) 20:15, 1 August 2019 (UTC)TracySalsberyReply

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