Talk:List of Atlantic Coast Conference national championships

Latest comment: 27 days ago by MabryTyson in topic WFU

WFU

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Chart lists no NCAA championships for WFU. Bit didn’t they win 1955 College World Series? Was this not an NCAA sanctioned event. 2600:4040:B321:CB00:C93D:EF18:3B6E:3AAD (talk) 22:10, 12 March 2023 (UTC)Reply

WFU now shows 10 ACC NCAA championships, incl. the 1955 CWS. Someone else did it before me.
I'd say this WFU section can be deleted. MabryTyson (talk) 04:37, 14 September 2024 (UTC)Reply

Totals by School

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The page is difficult to maintain. Individuals add entries to a sport but don't update the total for that sport or overall (in the section head for the sport). It is odd that some non-NCAA championships are included in the per-sport tables. The non-NCAA championships are included in the per-sport totals (in parentheses) but are not included in this main table of NCAA championships.

I propose that the non-NCAA championships (AIAW, etc) all be made into notes instead of being in the per-sport tables.

The referenced (June 2024) NCAA list of number of championships has errors which I'm reporting to the NCAA (i.e., don't trust that document to be perfect), and the table doesn't agree with the referenced list or with the actual numbers.

Errors in the NCAA document at this time affect Clemson (missing 2 MSoc NC), Florida St (excess Baseball NC), and Louisville (excess MBB NC). The table is now correct, based on other sources.

This section currently uses the wording: "The following table ranks the current ACC schools by the number of NCAA recognized national championships each school has won as an ACC member. This does not include Division I-A/FBS football championships, or [AIAW]." However, it appears that the NCAA NC column contained in some cases all NCs by the school, not those as an ACC member. The table is ambiguous and I intend to make it clearer.

But what about sports that the ACC doesn't sponsor but NCAA does (MGym, WWP, MWP) and schools have championships? I'm adding sections so that those sports and their championships are noted (but not counted as ACC championships). This makes it easier to compare the totals by school here to the NCAA document.

What should be done if a school leaves the conference? (Planning ahead!) Their championships while an ACC member should still be recorded. Maybe move them to the bottom of the table, or in a different color, or something.

I propose that the wording be changed to "The following table tallies the number of NCAA national championships by ACC members. This does not include Division I-A/FBS football championships or other non-NCAA championships (such as AIAW). The championships are divided into those won as an ACC conference team and all others."

I changed "Pre-ACC Championships" to "Non-ACC championships." To make it clear that the current "NCAA Championships" column is only for ACC, I would change it to "ACC NCAA Championships"

I have updated the numbers on this page and in this table.

Desiderata:

 1. The sum of the two columns (ACC and non-ACC) for the school should equal the total in the NCAA Combined championships for the school.  
 2. The total lines in the per-sport tables for any particular school should equal the number of ACC NCAA championships.
 3. Each non-ACC NCAA championship is in the per-sport notes.  Non-NCAA championships may also be in the per-sport notes.
 4. The total at the top of each sport be equal to the lines in the sport's table.

There is also an issue in the number of sports a school supports. Does this count all sports, or only the ones that the ACC has conference matches in? MabryTyson (talk) 04:34, 14 September 2024 (UTC)Reply