Talk:List of Akame ga Kill! characters
Latest comment: 7 years ago by AngusWOOF in topic Use present tense!
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Standardizing terminology
editThis article will follow manga terminology as translated by Yen Press, so please use the spellings there for the articles in general especially Teigu HERE. The exception would be for the anime episodes list which uses Imperial Arm/Arms HERE. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 21:09, 8 September 2016 (UTC)
- Chapter 5 (in volume 2) of Yen Press has the names for Night Raid's Teigu. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 00:51, 20 September 2016 (UTC)
- Shouldn't Teigu be written in italics since it is a Japanese word?Tintor2 (talk) 01:17, 3 October 2016 (UTC)
- Maybe at first introduction, but given the series is a completely different fantasy world, this could just be a term borrowed from the culture as with Murasame. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 01:41, 3 October 2016 (UTC)
- I went ahead and italicized the first mention. The rest of the article will use it as Teigu. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 17:58, 5 October 2016 (UTC)
- Maybe at first introduction, but given the series is a completely different fantasy world, this could just be a term borrowed from the culture as with Murasame. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 01:41, 3 October 2016 (UTC)
Use present tense!
editJust wanted to remind others here that we're supposed to write from the perspective of the reader, not of the characters per WP:INUNIVERSE.
- He stole a Teigu and became a notorious serial killer who decapitates his victims after they plead for their lives.
- Before joining Night Raid, she discovered she had a talent for killing after protecting her only friend from her abusive boyfriend.
- A former high-ranking imperial officer who gains infamy as "One-Hundred Killer Bulat".
These are examples of what we should not write. Thanks, Lord Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 01:03, 10 November 2016 (UTC)
- Those are more like examples of what not to write because the tenses are mixed. If the actions were all in the past prior to the storyline, then it should be in past tense. Historical present applies if the events are unfolding for the chapter when it's a flashback. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 06:55, 10 November 2016 (UTC)
- It would be quite confusing if sentences intended to be in past tense are simply switched to present tense. For example, "Zanku stole a Teigu and became a notorious serial killer who decapitates his victims after they plead for their lives" would be "After defecting from the empire, Zanku steals a Teigu and gains notoriety as a serial killer who decapitates his victims after they plead for their lives". I thought WP:INUNIVERSE is quite clear in describing "Using past tense when discussing the plot or any of its elements" as a "Problem". When writing the plot summary for a flashback episode, we wouldn't do it in past tense either. While reading a flashback, the flashback's present is the present for the reader. Akame being raised by Kurome: Present or Past? In Akame ga Kill!, it's a flashback. In Akame ga Kill! Zero, it isn't.
- Going back on the storyline, there is no present. There is no past and no future. As with several other works of fiction, Akame ga Kill! tries very hard to make the reader feel like they're experiencing the story with the characters, making it appear to them as if there was such a thing as a present. But there is not. We can write in what order events occur, but we can't treat any point in the series timeline as "the present". Lord Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 07:25, 10 November 2016 (UTC)
- Regarding Zanku, the manga has enough detail to explain it in historical present, so I can let that stay in present. But it were mentioned in passing like Mine "As a child, she was ridiculed and bullied for being of half-foreign blood; she hopes that when the Revolutionary Army wins, there will be more acceptance of different races." that can mention past tense. For Kurome / Akame past, there's plenty of detail for that and with Zero so yes, use historical present. But I still disagree that everything has to be written in historical present. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 07:36, 10 November 2016 (UTC)
- I understand where you are coming from, Angus. In general, we can write things like "In chapter X, during a flashback, A does B." It's irrelevant if we mention that it happens in a flashback, don't you think? Lord Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 07:45, 10 November 2016 (UTC)
- Yeah, flashbacks can be mentioned if that's part of the experience of the character as with recurring dreams/visions and stuff. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 07:52, 10 November 2016 (UTC)