Talk:Limba noastră

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I suggest you to review the english version of Moldovian anthem. It's incorrect.Replace tongue with language.

Hey, this translating is incorrect! limba, in this sense, means language, not tongue!—Preceding unsigned comment added by 201.1.207.43 (talk • contribs)

"Tongue" means both "language" and the anatomical muscle / organ in our mouth. 92.80.222.47 (talk) 18:37, 22 July 2009 (UTC)

Is it Romanian or Moldavian?

The anthem, says the article, is in Romanian. But the majority of Moldavians will not agree with that. If it's not a mistake, instead of 'Romanian' there should be 'Moldavian'. Greetings.24.86.116.250 (talk) 02:50, 12 November 2008 (UTC)

Moldovian is not a language. If the word describes a language, that language is the Romanian language spoken in Moldova (whether the republic or the Romanian province). There are only few differences in the way the Moldovans and the other Romanians speaking of the language. 92.80.222.47 (talk) 18:37, 22 July 2009 (UTC)

If you can, please help improve this and related articles. Dc76\^talk 18:41, 22 July 2009 (UTC)

OR interpretation of primary source

Since when can WP editors take a primary source, especially a literary piece, and judge it according to their own POV? It's a textbook example of WP:SYNTH. Sorry, but this is just like going in the Putin article and writing "his first name is Vladimir, which was also the first name of Lenin". Perfectly verifiable separately, but the POV of the synthesis is evident.Anonimu (talk) 10:54, 18 September 2009 (UTC)

Very good comparison! But while Putin's and Lenin's first names have no relevance to their qualities as heads of state, the "Awake from the sleep of death" in the first lines of both hymns have direct relevance to the romantic nationalism behind them. However, you might want to refraze your objection: rather than simply comparing the two songs, we should perhaps mention that both have a central theme the romantic nationalist "Awake from the sleep of death" theme. An article on Romanian romantic nationalism might make sense to write in the future. Dc76\^talk 11:29, 18 September 2009 (UTC)

Unless you find a source for that, that's just your original research. And thus deemed unworthy for inclusion in mainspace.Anonimu (talk) 11:37, 18 September 2009 (UTC)

Please don't discuss me, discuss content. I would be assuming you want to say "without a sourse to back that, it is unworthy for inclusion in mainspace". My response to that is: what exactly do you want sourced: that romantic nationalism has "Awake from the sleep of death" as an important theme or that these two anthems have that theme? Dc76\^talk 13:24, 18 September 2009 (UTC)

You may like such mantras, but they don't apply everywhere. This is a case where it doesn't. I have really no idea what other thing besides your "assumption" any English speaker could have understood from my message. Both matters should be sourced, plus the fact that this "common theme" has any relevance to the article.Anonimu (talk) 13:37, 18 September 2009 (UTC)

Please discuss content not editors. I will only answer to this: "Both matters should be sourced, plus the fact that this "common theme" has any relevance to the article." A central theme of a poem has relevance to the article of that poem. I also see non-sense to look for a source that the theme is central in both poems: with minimal knowledge of what a theme in a poem is, any 9th grader can see this as obvious. But I do see merit in finding a source that would say that "Awake from the sleep of death" is a theme frequent in Romanian romantic nationalism. we would not need such a source in this article if there would be a (sourced) article about specifically Romanian romantic nationalism. Dc76\^talk 13:58, 18 September 2009 (UTC)

"with minimal knowledge of what a theme in a poem is, any 9th grader can see this as obvious."?!? Please familiarize yourself with the concept of Orginal research.Anonimu (talk) 14:08, 18 September 2009 (UTC)

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