Talk:Lew Wallace

Images

If anyone is interested, public domain images of Lew Wallace can be found here; generalsandbrevets.com. Delta Tango • Talk 14:06, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

Unfamiliar term

"Serives"? Copey 2 (talk) 12:40, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

Typo fixed. Hal Jespersen (talk) 14:04, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

What was his military background before the Mexican War?

Did he go to West Point?

Tashiro (talk) 01:23, 30 June 2008 (UTC)

I could not find a record of any military training before Wallace served in Mexico in the volunteer service. I believe in those days the enlisted men elected their officers below the rank of major or so, which is likely here. Don't know for sure, though. Hope this helps, but others around here might find out more. Kresock (talk) 02:26, 30 June 2008 (UTC)

It took me a few tries (early in the morning here :-)), but I've updated it. Hal Jespersen (talk) 14:10, 30 June 2008 (UTC)

Middle name

what is Wallace's middle name, please answer, I'm currently writing an article on Wallace and if I don't find his middle name I'll fail - Shay —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.234.153.184 (talk) 02:20, 18 November 2008 (UTC)

He did not have a middle name. His name was simply Lewis Wallace. Spacini (talk) 14:43, 18 November 2008 (UTC)

Support

„Wallace made two unsuccessful bids for a seat in Congress (in 1868 and 1870), and supported Republican presidential candidate Rutherford B. Hayes in the 1878 election.”

?? Hayes was president already from 1877! 80.99.217.173 (talk) 12:44, 13 December 2014 (UTC)

Shiloh- map needed.

The ordered movements, and the actual movements, of Wallace's division appear to be adequately described, but without a map the account is still confusing. Terry Thorgaard (talk) 17:56, 8 January 2015 (UTC)

Done. Spacini (talk) 17:23, 9 January 2015 (UTC)

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Lewis "Lew" Wallace hypocorism

Re: Spacini's edit summary, "the fact that he was born "Lewis" and chose to style himself after about 30 for the remainder of his life as "Lew" takes precedent over the MOS", I couldn't disagree more. The significance that he went by "Lew" as his WP:COMMONNAME is clear in that it is the name of the article, and is not in dispute. What the MOS specifically calls out is instances in which the common name and the article name are the hypocorism and it is an obvious/common nickname from the birth name, such as Thomas -> Tom, or... Lewis-> Lew. This is a totally different circumstance than if the article were named Lewis Wallace and Spacini wanted to impart the significance of him going by "Lew" later, which is what the edit summary suggests is the rationale. The page should stay named "Lew Wallace" and the into should just list his birthname, "Lewis Wallace" and we'll trust the reader to figure out the derivation of Lew. JesseRafe (talk) 16:51, 8 December 2017 (UTC)

OK, now I see your reasoning for the change. I assumed that the definition of hypocorism being used was in the strictest sense of an affectionate appellation given to him by someone else. So, yes, let's remove "Lew" from the article lead, keep the article title Lew Wallace, and I'll attempt to find my source for where he began styling himself as Lew Wallace and add that to the article (the more I think about it, I'm certain it was in the 1850s). The military infobox has a spot for nicknames, so would it be appropriate to put "Lew" there? I'm inclined not to as it's not truly a nickname. Thanks for clarifying your position on this. Spacini (talk) 17:15, 12 December 2017 (UTC)

I removed the "Lew" in the lede, but didn't see a nickname field in the infobox, maybe that was a null parameter previously removed, your call if you think it should go there. I don't feel strongly, leaning to the thinking that type of thing should be for bestowed sobriquets and the like. JesseRafe (talk) 18:18, 12 December 2017 (UTC)

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Lew Wallace's letter to Mrs. W. H. L. Wallace

Under “Shiloh Controversy”:

“After W. H. L. Wallace's widow gave Grant a letter that Lew Wallace had written to her the day before the battle (the one indicating his plans to use the Shunpike road to pass between Shiloh and his position west of Crump's Landing), Grant changed his mind.”

Has anyone ever answered why a division commander, while a major battle was imminent, would write the wife of another division commander a letter at all, let alone one discussing impending logistical strategy? This seems to me one of the oddest events of the war. And why did the widow of General W. H. L. Wallace wait so long before divulging its contents to General Grant if she had presumably been aware of the controversy?HistoryBuff14 (talk) 16:20, 20 August 2023 (UTC)

“The day before the battle, Wallace wrote a letter to a fellow officer, W. H. L. Wallace, recommending this route [Shunpike Road] to reinforce the 3rd Division.[57] “

Having initially missed the above quote from the article under “Shiloh,” upon reading it I have come to the obvious conclusion that the referenced letter was written By Lew Wallace to W. H. L. Wallace and not to the latter's wife which, as I noted above, would have seemed bizarre, and that in the quotation I quoted in my original post the passage: “After W. H. L. Wallace's widow gave Grant a letter that Lew Wallace had written to her…” the word “husband” was simply inadvertently omitted. I intend to change the article presently as I find it difficult to believe anyone would object.

As to why Mrs. W. H. L Wallace waited so long to bring the letter to the attention of Grant, having been given her late husband’s effects shortly after he had been killed at Shiloh, she might have not have read the letter attentively at the time and much later, having heard of the controversy concerning Lew Wallace’s actions at Shiloh, read the letter more thoroughly and realized its significance.HistoryBuff14 (talk) 16:53, 10 September 2023 (UTC)

Factual Errors

The section on Billy Bonney is mostly just the plot of Young Guns II, which is fiction. Two major points, among several, Bonney wrote to Wallace to offer testimony in exchange for his indictments being annulled, meaning, importantly, that Bonney initiated contact. Wallace said he had the power to exempt Bonney from prosecution if he testified, and that was the agreement, not a pardon as Wallace claimed 20 years later (a pardon requires finding of guilt; Bonney had not yet been tried). Garrett was elected sheriff (likely with the help of the Santa Fe Ring); he was NOT HIRED by Wallace and ranchers. 71.178.172.16 (talk) 18:35, 13 October 2023 (UTC)

Unnecessary/Irrelevant Information

The paragraph re Gov. Richardson's decision not to pardon Billy the Kid in 2010 is irrelevant to the subject of Lew Wallace. BiographyHound (talk) 11:46, 26 March 2024 (UTC)