Talk:Letitia James
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DoB edit
- "Letitia James Lehman College 1981, City Councilmember, Brooklyn." [1]
Hence "(born c. 1960)"
--Jerzy•t 14:56, 12 October 2006 (UTC)
Section That Keeps Getting Taken Out By Biased Editor Rms125a@hotmail.com edit
"In 2005, Letitia James became very involved in advocating for her community's needs in regard to the proposed Brooklyn Nets Arena in her district. Going against Mayor Michael Bloomberg, Borough President Marty Markowitz and developer Bruce Ratner," --71.167.144.190 (talk) 17:18, 14 September 2013 (UTC)
- That's right. I did trim the article to the essentials, and removed POV text and name dropping. As far as "advocating for her community's needs", read Bertha Lewis's comment re James, which I did not insert or add to the article, but found fascinating. I really would like to know what agenda this IP editor has and if he/she is a staffer or other interested party in James' political life and campaigns. Guess we'll never know.Quis separabit? 17:47, 14 September 2013 (UTC)
- Rms, you didn't address the issue about the the above-quoted. I'm putting it back in.--69.2.120.11 (talk) 15:05, 16 September 2013 (UTC)
- I further removed the Bertha Lewis quote since it went against NPOV. She's still in there but it's really not clear what she's up to these days so such a quote seems less important. Besides, Ratner's company is nowhere near building any of that affordable housing for the project yet.--100.2.222.219 (talk) 16:29, 3 October 2013 (UTC)
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Brooklyn vs. New York City edit
JesseRafe, I'm looking at Template:Infobox person which lays out city, administrative region, country as the standard for denoting locations. Brooklyn, New York seems to me misleading because it looks like its a city in New York. For example we say someone is from Delhi, India, not *insert on of the 11 districts of the city*, India. This is the difference between my edit and your reversion:
- James was born in Brooklyn, New York. (your reversion)
- James was born in the Brooklyn borough of New York City, New York. (mine)
You wrote in your edit history "the MOS and standards, it's commonly called "Brooklyn". Can you please link the policy you are referring to so I can read it? Thanks. LivinRealGüd (talk) 21:39, 8 March 2018 (UTC)
- This is an intentionally false narrative, as can clearly be seen in my edit summaries my issue was you rewrote the passage to say the needlessly wordy "Brooklyn borough of New York City, New York City" which is clearly silly and unencylopedic and wholly different "from borough of New York City, New York" which you claim, but is still not good. The common name is "Brooklyn, New York" a full 2/3 words shorter and much more to the point. The idea that "the more words one writes the more authoritative" does not equal better writing. That aside, it is the standard to just use the WP:COMMONNAME almost everywhere, and deference is given to NYC boroughs as an almost city-level toponym in this article: Wikipedia:Naming conventions (geographic names)#Northern America and the Caribbean, which is not about this precisely, but illustrative of the fact that they can stand alone, such as in article titles. Lastly, WP:IFITAINTBROKE holds too. JesseRafe (talk) 22:13, 8 March 2018 (UTC)
- Firstly, there is no "intentionally false narrative", I was quoting you from right here. My "idea" is that the more accurate words are they more authoritative they are. Before I got to this page I found her infobox displaying "Brooklyn, New York" as if Brooklyn was a city. I am willing to bet an editor saw your edit of "Brooklyn, New York" and thought that it was a city. In infoboxes you write "New York City, New York, U.S." no matter where you come from in New York City. WP:COMMONNAME is under Wikipedia:Article titles, and it is a guideline for Article Titles. You are right in saying deference is given to NYC boroughs, when its relating to neighborhoods not cities. To quote directly: "Neighborhoods within New York City are identified by the standard [neighborhood, borough], where "borough" is one of the five boroughs ..." Lastly, WP:IFITAINTBROKE, does indeed hold true: "... if something is slightly broken in a way that you care about, and fixing it improves the encyclopedia a little, then feel free to fix it." I'm honestly not trying to be a thorn in the side, I'm just trying to make it a little better. I propose the following:
- James was born in the Brooklyn borough of New York City, New York.
- Let me know what you think. LivinRealGüd (talk) 23:44, 8 March 2018 (UTC)
- Firstly, there is no "intentionally false narrative", I was quoting you from right here. My "idea" is that the more accurate words are they more authoritative they are. Before I got to this page I found her infobox displaying "Brooklyn, New York" as if Brooklyn was a city. I am willing to bet an editor saw your edit of "Brooklyn, New York" and thought that it was a city. In infoboxes you write "New York City, New York, U.S." no matter where you come from in New York City. WP:COMMONNAME is under Wikipedia:Article titles, and it is a guideline for Article Titles. You are right in saying deference is given to NYC boroughs, when its relating to neighborhoods not cities. To quote directly: "Neighborhoods within New York City are identified by the standard [neighborhood, borough], where "borough" is one of the five boroughs ..." Lastly, WP:IFITAINTBROKE, does indeed hold true: "... if something is slightly broken in a way that you care about, and fixing it improves the encyclopedia a little, then feel free to fix it." I'm honestly not trying to be a thorn in the side, I'm just trying to make it a little better. I propose the following: