Talk:Leopard attack

Latest comment: 1 year ago by 119.152.144.158 in topic Citation 77 does not work

Summary of attack list edit

The list of leopard attacks is very good, but it needs a summary total as per WP:CALC as a courtesy to the reader that wants to know how many are listed, total. Just as the lead of the has summaries at the top for those who just want the gist at a glance, the list total provides the reader with a summary of the list at the bottom. It is clear, in context what the total is: just the list at a glance, as of we have it at last edit, with no analysis or interpretation. Please allow it to stand, as it is classic WP:CALC from What Original Research is Not. Chrisrus (talk) 06:22, 13 October 2014 (UTC)Reply

Absolutely not. Stop with your pointy nonsense. It's time for you to drop the stick. There is an overwhelming consensus against this sort of thing that you refuse to accept. You know this and yet you still persist. 0x0077BE [talk/contrib] 11:57, 13 October 2014 (UTC)Reply
I'm sorry, this place may only be rightly used to discuss article improvement. Please explain, as I have, how your recent edit improves the article. I will wait an appropriate amount of time and then put it back the way it was. Chrisrus (talk) 15:29, 14 October 2014 (UTC)Reply
It improves the article by removing WP:OR. Again, this is per the overwhelming consensus on the matter. 0x0077BE [talk/contrib] 16:26, 14 October 2014 (UTC)Reply

Verifiable and inaccurate? edit

I have no doubt that leopards kill humans and that because these are reported, they are verifiable. It may also be that it can be verified that a single leopard has been reported to kill hundreds of humans (e.g by newspaper reports) - but how can this possibly be accurate! Unless there is a way of identifying an individual leopard and a robust eye-witness report of each killing, how can this be substantiated?__DrChrissy (talk) 01:18, 3 January 2015 (UTC)Reply

Many Wikipedians don't agree, but under certain conditions we can't just pass something on from the sources to the articles if it really doesn't make sence that they would be able to know that for sure. However, one must be very careful about this. Are we sure it's so strange for them to claim only one cat killed all those people? Do we know enough to doubt their ability to know this? Chrisrus (talk) 19:13, 19 February 2015 (UTC)Reply

The "Recent attacks" section edit

The "Recent attacks" section needs to be looked at. Firstly, the word "Recent" means it is time-stamped which we would not accept in the text body. Secondly, it now looks like it contravenes Wikipedia:Wikipedia is not a newspaper. I have not deleted or edited this section, but I urge other editors to consider this.__DrChrissy (talk) 15:40, 19 February 2015 (UTC)Reply

It might help if we had a look at the other articles in this category and see how they deal with it and compare. I'm sure this can be brought in line with standard Wikipedian practice about collecting such attacks. Chrisrus (talk) 16:41, 19 February 2015 (UTC)Reply
List of fatal shark attacks in Australia might be one way forward.__DrChrissy (talk) 17:05, 19 February 2015 (UTC)Reply
Yes, that's a good one. How would you like to do this article, in terms of the most recent attacks? Chrisrus (talk) 21:29, 23 February 2015 (UTC)Reply
It is possible to make columns sortable so this could be year, location, number killed, etc. I have pasted an example below which I created for Pregnancy in fish. __DrChrissy (talk) 22:11, 23 February 2015 (UTC)Reply
Species Reproduction

method

Gestation period

(Days)

Number of young

(Average)

Atlantic sharpnose shark[1] (Rhizoprionodon terraenovae) Viviparous 300-330 4-6
Barbeled houndshark[2] (Leptocharias smithii) Viviparousa >120 7
Blackspot shark[3] (Carcharhinus sealei) Viviparousb 270 1-2
Blue shark[4] (Prionace glauca) Viviparous 270-366 4-135
Bonnethead shark (Sphyrna tiburo) Viviparousc 4-12[5]
Bull shark[6] (Carcharhinus leucas) Viviparous 366 4-10
Butterfly goodeid[7] (Ameca splendens) Viviparous 55-60 6-30
Caribbean sharpnose shark (Rhizoprionodon porosus) Viviparous 2-6[8]
Daggernose shark[9] (Isogomphodon oxyrhynchus) Viviparous 366 2-8
Lemon shark[10] (Negaprion brevirostris) Viviparous 366 18 (max)
Oceanic whitetip shark[11] (Carcharhinus longimanus) Viviparous 366 1-15
Dwarf seahorse[12] (Hippocampus zosterae) Viviparous 3-55 10
Sandbar shark[13] (Carcharhinus plumbeus) Viviparous 366 8
Spadenose shark[9] (Scoliodon laticaudus) Viviparousd 150-180 6-18
Viviparous eelpout[14] (Zoarces viviparus) Viviparouse 180 30-400
Basking shark[15] (Cetorhinus maximus) Ovoviviparous >366 unknownf
Bat ray[16] (Myliobatis californica) Ovoviviparous 270-366 2-10
Coelocanth (g. Latimeria) Ovoviviparous >366[17]
Blue stingray (Dasyatis chrysonota) Ovoviviparous 270 1-5
Bluespotted stingray[18] (Neotrygon kuhlii) Ovoviviparous 90-150 1-7
Carpet sharks (f. Ginglymostomatidae) Ovoviviparous 180 30-40
Knifetooth sawfish[19] (Anoxypristis cuspidata) Ovoviviparous 150 6-23
Nurse shark (Ginglymostoma cirratum), Ovoviviparous 150 21-29
Sailfin molly (Poecilia latipinna) Ovoviviparous 21-28 10-140
Salmon shark[4] (Lamna ditropis) Ovoviviparous 270 2-6
Sand tiger shark[20] (Carcharias taurus) Ovoviviparous 270-366 2g
School shark[21] (Galeorhinus galeus) Ovoviviparous 366 28-38
Shortfin mako shark[22] (Isurus oxyrinchus) Ovoviviparous 450-540 4-18
Spotted eagle ray[11] (Aetobatus narinari) Ovoviviparous 366 4
Tiger shark[19] (Galeocerdo cuvier) Ovoviviparous 480 10-80
Tawny nurse shark[23] (Nebrius ferrugineus) Aplacental viviparity 1-2
  • a Unlike any other shark, the yolk-sac placenta is globular or spherical.[23]
  • b At first, the embryos are sustained by a yolk sac, but later a placenta develops.
  • c A bonnethead female produced a pup by parthenogenesis in 2001.[24]
  • d The spadenose shark has the most advanced form of placental viviparity known in fish, as measured by the complexity of the placental connection and the difference in weight between the egg and the newborn young.[25]
  • e The eelpout suckles its young embryos while still within their mother's body, making it the only fish species to suckle its offspring.[14]
  • f Only one pregnant female is known to have been caught; she was carrying six unborn young.[15]
  • g 1 per uterine horn

That's good work. I say go ahead, but I'd like to ask others what they think it should look like because the list of leopard attacks used to be much longer. It got so long that it was summarized into the small list you'll find in the article today. Yet this has left a problem how to deal with new attacks, because new attacks are individual items, but the new list is a summary of many individual items. So let's get a little a little advice. I'll ask Mario what he thinks should be done with recent attacks. Chrisrus (talk) 04:46, 24 February 2015 (UTC)Reply

The date should be full date (day, month, year), and don't remove the recent attack section here until the article list of leopard attacks is made, other columns could be type of injury inflicted on the human, and the condition of the attacker leopard after the attack (killed, captured, fled, etc). Editor abcdef (talk) 05:46, 24 February 2015 (UTC)Reply

Please don't expect me to be making these edits. I have my own personal reasons for not doing this. I am simply offering a potential solution to a problem which hopefully improves the article as reference material.__DrChrissy (talk) 10:44, 24 February 2015 (UTC)Reply

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Merger Discussion edit

Request received to merge articles: Leopard of the Yellagiri Hills into Leopard attack; dated November 2015. Discuss here. GenQuest "Talk to Me" 16:17, 27 November 2015 (UTC) Rationale: Merge three articles on man-eater animals. All three articles rely on a single source - a book by the hunter Kenneth Anderson who killed the animals himself. These have no dates and have possible WP:Copyvio problems. - Kenfyre (talk) 12:56, 27 January 2015 (UTC)Reply

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Citation 77 does not work edit

The website does work, but the article seems to be missing. 119.152.144.158 (talk) 10:12, 23 July 2022 (UTC)Reply