Talk:Legacy of the Roman Empire

Latest comment: 7 months ago by Charles Constantzis in topic Toponyms

Needs edit

  • wines
  • road systems, settlements (Cologne etc etc), place names
  • church geography (dioceses and parishes)
  • church clothing
  • money (pounds, shillings, pence)
  • weights and measures
  • secret ballot
  • administrative practices ('secretary' as head of department, acting roles (locum tenens)) via the church
  • shorthand
  • 'Turkish' baths, plumbing, showers
  • Malaysian primary schools - the growth and expansion — Preceding unsigned comment added by 113.23.240.11 (talk) 05:00, 23 August 2017 (UTC)Reply


Also article needs a lot of expansion. m.e. (talk) 04:44, 15 October 2009 (UTC)Reply

Where it says that English grammar may be similar to French. Could the author please specify or give examples, as i thought that English shared its Grammar with the North Germanic Languages ( e.g Swedish), whereas standard German grammar was closer to the romance because it retained the cases, nouns, gender ect... that the rest of the Germanic languages had lost. hans — Preceding unsigned comment added by 41.220.103.193 (talk) 19:27, 12 June 2011 (UTC)Reply

Indeed, Standard German seems to have a grammar more analogous to that of Latin as codified around the time of the Protestant Reformation. This may reflect that German still contained the three genders and four of many cases descended from Proto-Indo-European (PIE) and Proto-Germanic (PG) than did contemporary English and Dutch. Luther and others wanted to 'ennoble' German by making it share some 'noble' traits of Classical Latin.

English and French share, but this is coincidence more than anything else, the majority of plurals ending in "s" (Final x as a plural in French is usually a relic of a lost consonant, typically "l", and this appears independently in English as the informal plural "thanx" of "thank"). I wouldn't make too much of that. Pbrower2a (talk) 14:58, 27 January 2018 (UTC)Reply

Languages other than the Germanic family edit

I would need some citations on this, but Maltese (really an Arabic dialect) has mostly words of Latin origin, mostly from the Sicilian dialect of Italian -- even if grammar and core vocabulary are Arabic. Note also that Slavic languages, especially west Slavic Polish, Czech, and Slovak, and the South Slavic languages Slovene and Serbo-Croatian have huge shares of words ultimately of Latin origin. Take heed also of non-Indo-European Finnish and Hungarian.Pbrower2a (talk) 14:58, 27 January 2018 (UTC)Reply

The Maltese language is considered a surviving variant of Siculo-Arabic, the vernacular Arabic of the Emirate of Sicily (831–1091).

Of the modern vocabulary of Maltese, 52% are loanwords from Italian or Sicilian, 32% are Siculo-Arabic terms, 6% are loanwords from English, and up to 10% are loanwords from French. Dimadick (talk) 13:03, 31 January 2018 (UTC)Reply

@Dimadick: Considering that Tunisian Arabic is the closest language to Maltese and Maltese is partially intelligible to Tunisian Arabic speakers, that language should be looked at too. — Mr. Guye (talk) (contribs)  19:07, 3 May 2021 (UTC)Reply

Vlachs, heirs of Roman Empire edit

Main article: Vlachs

The Vlachs are heirs of the Eastern Roman Empire’s Latinized but indigenous population of the Balkans (Illyrians, Thracians, Dacians). Vlach is an exonym, the Vlachs, however, call themselves Arumani, Armani, Aromani, Rumani, etc – all of them meaning Romans. When Slavic people started invasion to the Eastern Roman Empire in the sixth and seventh centuries A.D. The Vlachs fled to the forests and mountains by cause of the ferocity of the Slavs and have pastoralized their life with the transhumance herding as key economic activity.[1] The word Vlach is of German origin and was used by ancient Germans to name the citizens of the Roman Empire. However, another theory claims the Byzantine origin of the word[2] Vlachs have spred in Middle Ages in Poland, Slovakia, Czech Republic (Moravian Wallachia) and Ukraine[3]

[Vlachs]] contributed to the rise of several medieval principlities in the Balkans (Zeta, Zachlumia) and finally they participated to the emergence of the Vlach-Bulgarian state known as Second Bulgarian Empire[4] Today Vlachs have no state (excepting Romania) and they are a minority in all countries of the Balkans. The heritage of minorities, including the one of the Vlachs, is not infrequently passed over in silence in official national discourse[5] — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.124.185.33 (talk) 08:40, 3 May 2018 (UTC)Reply

References

  1. ^ Miroslav Ruzica, The Balkan Vlachs/Aromanians Awakening, National Policies, Assimilation. ASN COnference, Belgrade, September 2006
  2. ^ Ilie Gherghel, Câteva considerațiuni la cuprinsul noțiunii cuvântului "Vlach"(Romanian), București: Convorbiri Literare, 1920, p.4-8
  3. ^ Ewa Kocoj, Artifacts of the Past as Traces of Memory. The Aromanian Cultural Heritage in the Balkans, RES HISTORICA 41, 2016
  4. ^ Alexandru Madgearu, The Asanids: The Political Military History of the Second Bulgarian Empire.Brill,Leiden-Boston,2017
  5. ^ Eva Kocoj “Heritage without heirs? Tangible and religious cultural heritage of the Vlach minority in Europe in the context of an interdisciplinary research project” Balcanica Posnaniensia • Special volume Ius Valachicum I, Poznań – Bucharest 2015.p.138

Italian in Istria edit

Currently, Italian language is co-official in Istria County in Croatia, but this fact is not reflected on the map. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.136.24.125 (talk) 02:51, 12 October 2021 (UTC)Reply

Toponyms edit

What toponyms are acceptable for this page? I know numerous toponyms that aren’t in the article, and I’m not sure if they aren’t listed because they aren’t considered relevant to the article or just because no one has put them yet. I am going to list the toponyms here so that someone can confirm whether they are allowed to be placed here.

• Roumlouki in Greece

• Țara Românească which is usually called Wallachia in English.

• The Campo de Romanos in Spain.

• Romagna estense or Romagna Ferrarese a subregion of Romagna in Italy.

• Tuscan Romagna (Romagna toscana) or florentine Romagna (Romagna fiorentina) another subregion of Romagna.

• The Ager Romanus in Italy.

• The Roman Campagna in Italy.

• The Castelli Romani in Italy. Charles Constantzis (talk) 07:30, 27 September 2023 (UTC)Reply