Talk:Lawrence, Kansas
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Quantrill
editBy doing some research, I found that Quantrill didn't raid Lawrence on May 21, 1856. He did it on August 21, 1863. May 21, 1856 was a different raid by a different pro-slavery group. My sources are the external links I added to the page. Rmeier 21:48, 19 September 2004 (UTC)
Better Photos Please
editI couldn't help but notice that there is not even one decent photo of Downtown or the University of Kansas campus, arguably the two most important components of Lawrence's identity. It would be nice if someone could upload said photos. I would do it myself, bit I am not versed in Wiki editing and haven't discovered how to upload or change pictures. I just think the city could be better represented, visually, than it is in this article. Any help would be appreciated! Thanks, -Jack C. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.103.31.41 (talk) 22:27, 3 April 2012 (UTC)
Media section's lack of references
editWe're approaching four years that this template has been here, and I want to help, but I don't know how to. What parts specifically need more references? What exactly needs to be referenced? Just the mere existence of these newspapers existing when they have their own Wikipedia articles? Is it the newspapers paragraph that needs more references, or is it the movie studio part? I would like to be able to do some digging, but I'm not 100% what left needs to be referenced. ~Junedude433(talk) 21:20, 22 May 2019 (UTC)
Lawrence Massacre
editThis is mentioned a number of times and there is even a link to the Wikipedia article on it, but it is never described. Which raid does it refer to? Kdammers (talk) 05:48, 26 October 2020 (UTC)
- The one on August 21, 1863. What's confusing? deisenbe (talk) 09:46, 26 October 2020 (UTC)
- The problem is that there is talk of raids (plural) earlier in the section and then neither the name "Lawrence M/massacre" nor the word "massacre" is used. Instead, the sobriquet "Quantril's Raid" is used, which can easily be understood as a different raid, since there is no clear identification of the two terms as one. (Well, yes, the link for Quantril's Raid is to the Wikipedia article "Lawrence massacre" -- but wikpedia should not play hide and seek. Kdammers (talk) 13:39, 26 October 2020 (UTC)
- "Quantrill's Raid" is what the attack is commonly called by the locals (in fact, I'd never heard of "the Lawrence massacre" until I started to look at sources that were published by those outside of the Lawrence area). I went ahead and cleaned up that section to make it a little clearer to the reader.--Gen. Quon (Talk) 16:50, 26 October 2020 (UTC)
- The problem is that there is talk of raids (plural) earlier in the section and then neither the name "Lawrence M/massacre" nor the word "massacre" is used. Instead, the sobriquet "Quantril's Raid" is used, which can easily be understood as a different raid, since there is no clear identification of the two terms as one. (Well, yes, the link for Quantril's Raid is to the Wikipedia article "Lawrence massacre" -- but wikpedia should not play hide and seek. Kdammers (talk) 13:39, 26 October 2020 (UTC)
Nicknames
editThe nickname section desperately needs better sourcing. “River City” source is city data which really isn’t a reliable source and “Larryville” doesn’t actually support the assertion, it’s just newspaper blog named that. Any help would be appreciated. Grey Wanderer (talk) 03:53, 11 September 2021 (UTC)
- Just an aside, as someone from the area, I've definitely heard "Larryville" and "LFK". Not sure about the others.--Gen. Quon (Talk) 14:03, 11 September 2021 (UTC)
- user:Marshan3q, please check your sourcing and maybe read WP:Reliable source. You have linked a dead link, a Wikipedia mirror, and your first source doesn’t clearly support the assertion. I’m not contesting that this very well may be a nickname, but if it is it needs to meet WP:Verifiability Grey Wanderer (talk) 22:38, 15 September 2021 (UTC)
- Also, lol at "Snob Hill". Never heard that one!--Gen. Quon (Talk) 00:47, 16 September 2021 (UTC)
- I did find some sources calling Snob Hill a derogatory nickname for KU, and for Mount Ored, but none that name the whole town. Seems too tenuous to have a place here without a decent source. Grey Wanderer (talk) 02:08, 16 September 2021 (UTC)
- Funny. Is it an older name? Like I said, I haven't heard that one before, but of course, I'm not all-knowing about this sorta thing.--Gen. Quon (Talk) 02:24, 16 September 2021 (UTC)
- Seems to be an athletic rivalry thing. Kansas State in particular. Dunno about age. Grey Wanderer (talk) 02:27, 16 September 2021 (UTC)
- Funny. Is it an older name? Like I said, I haven't heard that one before, but of course, I'm not all-knowing about this sorta thing.--Gen. Quon (Talk) 02:24, 16 September 2021 (UTC)
- I did find some sources calling Snob Hill a derogatory nickname for KU, and for Mount Ored, but none that name the whole town. Seems too tenuous to have a place here without a decent source. Grey Wanderer (talk) 02:08, 16 September 2021 (UTC)
- Also, lol at "Snob Hill". Never heard that one!--Gen. Quon (Talk) 00:47, 16 September 2021 (UTC)
- I would agree city data isn't a reliable source as well. Regarding the Larryville nickname I did find a source that isn't specifically listed at WP:VG/S here. On the River City nickname, there is a large number of businesses in Lawrence with River City in their name but I can't seem to find one that specifically names it as a nickname. For LFK I've found this source.--Rockchalk717 02:54, 16 September 2021 (UTC)
Metropolitan Statistical Area
editThis article does not mention the Lawrence, Kansas MSA, Metropolitan Statistical Area. I believe that means Douglas County. Yes, this text is in the article about Douglas County: “Douglas County comprises the Lawrence, KS Metropolitan Statistical Area, which is also included in the Kansas City-Overland Park-Kansas City, MO-KS Combined Statistical Area.” At the Douglas County, Kansas article.
Nor does it mention that the Lawrence MSA is considered part of the Kansas City, Missouri CSA, Consolidated Statistical Area. The information is in the article Kansas City metropolitan area. That article includes a map of the CSA.
I am trusting that the Kansas City metropolitan area article and Douglas County article are accurate. The map in the Kansas City metro area article seems to confirm the accuracy.
Can the MS and CSA be mentioned in this article? Mentioned in the lead and elsewhere in the article. It is noteworthy, as Lawrence is between Topeka and Kansas City, Kansas, both of which are in an MSA. Then it would be logical to include the metro area population in the info box, along with the city-proper population. - - Prairieplant (talk) 17:43, 7 August 2024 (UTC)
- Interesting. As someone from the area, I had never heard of this. The more you know. It definitely should be mentioned somewhere. Is a lede mention common for this sort of thing?--Gen. Quon[Talk] 12:22, 8 August 2024 (UTC)