Talk:Last Dance (Donna Summer song)
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Requested move 24 July 2017
edit- The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the move request was: 'Moved to Last Dance (Donna Summer song) per nom. Noting that WP:INCDAB is not a universally liked convention (myself included), it is still the official guideline, and I don't see particularly strong arguments to IAR here. No such user (talk) 08:50, 9 August 2017 (UTC)
Last Dance (song) → Last Dance (Donna Summer song) – There is a song by Big Bang of the same name, and it appears that the Big Band song had huge success on the eastern side of the world in the last few months. Donna Summer's song, however, was not as much of a massive hit as people think, only peaking at #3 on Billboard and only hitting the top 10 in. a few other countries. "Last Dance (song)" should then redirect to "Last Dance". 2601:8C:4001:DCB9:1176:45F4:C2E6:5581 (talk) 17:16, 24 July 2017 (UTC)
- This is a contested technical request (permalink). Anthony Appleyard (talk) 21:21, 24 July 2017 (UTC)
- I contest this. Donna Summer's song is the WP:PRIMARY topic. – Muboshgu (talk) 17:36, 24 July 2017 (UTC)
- @2601:8C:4001:DCB9:1176:45F4:C2E6:5581 and Muboshgu: Queried move request. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 21:21, 24 July 2017 (UTC)
- Support Automatic move Last Dance (Big Bang song) In ictu oculi (talk) 22:24, 24 July 2017 (UTC)
- Support. The creation of Last Dance (Big Bang song) means that the present title is incomplete disambiguation and should point to the dab page.--Cúchullain t/c 13:56, 27 July 2017 (UTC)
- Oppose. Firstly, peaking at #3 in Billboard is not evidence that the song wasn't a "massive" hit — "massiveness" is not conditional on hitting #1, but on hitting the top ten at all, and the word "massive" is not actually present in our notability criteria for songs at all (and at any rate, the Big Bang song isn't claimed to have hit #1 anywhere either.) Secondly, the number of countries where a song was a top ten hit is not a notability factor either — the number of countries in which it was a charting hit at all is what matters, and even if we did only count top ten placements the Donna Summer song still hit the top 10 in more countries than the Big Bang song did. Thirdly, there's the fact that the Donna Summer song won major awards, including the Academy Award for Best Original Song and the Grammy Award for Best Female R&B Vocal Performance, a claim the Big Bang song can't match — the Oscars and the Grammies are two of the ten most notable awards on the entire planet for a song to win, while Music Bank isn't in an even remotely equivalent league. Nomination appears to be based on WP:RECENTISM, more than anything else: it's true that the Big Bang song has more recent coverage by virtue of being a single that was just released less than a year ago, but the Donna Summer song has vastly more coverage overall — and our notability criteria are based on all-time coverage, not just recent coverage. Bearcat (talk) 17:53, 4 August 2017 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page or in a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.
Bob Esty's Claims
editProducer Bob Esty claimed that he wrote this song but Casablanca assigned authorship to Giorgio Moroder and Paul Jabara. He died before his lawsuit against them came to trial. Esty is credited as the producer of the song. [1]https://www.imdb.com/news/ni62635146/ L. Greg (talk) 21:14, 26 June 2023 (UTC)
Release date
editThe release date is given as July 2, 1978, but the song charted on the Billboard Hot 100 at No. 85 the week of May 13, 1978? https://www.billboard.com/charts/hot-100/1978-05-13/ CaseCom (talk) 16:52, 29 July 2023 (UTC)