Talk:Laos at the 2012 Summer Olympics/GA1

GA Review

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Reviewer: MWright96 (talk · contribs) 15:52, 11 February 2021 (UTC)

Will take this review MWright96 (talk) 15:52, 11 February 2021 (UTC)

1. It is reasonably well written.

   a (prose): b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists):

2. It is factually accurate and verifiable.

   a (reference section): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR):

3. It is broad in its coverage.

   a (major aspects): b (focused):

4. It follows the neutral point of view policy.

   Fair representation without bias:

5. It is stable.

   No edit wars, etc.:

6. It is illustrated by images and other media, where possible and appropriate.

   a (images are tagged and non-free content have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):

7. Overall:

   Pass/Fail:

Lead

• Avoid bolding wikilinks per MOS:BOLDLINK
  • Y and question: That was already there before I expanded. Didn't know that was a thing. Since the first sentence breaks up the article title, does removing the bold/wikilinks work for MOS:TITLEABSENTBOLD? --MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 18:25, 11 February 2021 (UTC)
    • Removing the bold works for MOS:TITLEABSENTBOLD MWright96 (talk) 18:49, 11 February 2021 (UTC)
• "when the event took part from 27 July – 12 August 2012." - can be either the event occurred from 27 July to 12 August 2012. or the eventh took place from 27 July to 12 August 2012.
  • Y Went with the second option. --MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 18:25, 11 February 2021 (UTC)
• "This was the nation's eighth consecutive Olympiad since 1980," - shouldn't that be eighth appearance overall and not consecutive since they did not participate in the 1984 Games?
  • Y I think I meant seventh consecutive after not appearing in 1984. Reworded and added debut as well. --MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 18:25, 11 February 2021 (UTC)
• Wikilink flag bearer
  • Y and question: Done. Is it one word, two or with a dash? Google gives me different results --MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 18:36, 11 February 2021 (UTC)
    • It depends MWright96 (talk) 18:49, 11 February 2021 (UTC)
• Wikilink the word opening to 2012 Summer Olympics opening ceremony and the word closing to 2012 Summer Olympics closing ceremony
  • Y Did. --MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 18:36, 11 February 2021 (UTC)
• "while swimmer Phathana Inthavong did not reach farther than the 50 m freestyle heats." - Wikilink the text in bold to the relevant article
  • Y done --MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 18:36, 11 February 2021 (UTC)
• "Inthavong placed the highest for Laos in 2012 with a 56th finish." - think there is a missing word between "56th" and "finish"
  • Y Though I did say "placed" earlier in the sentence, I reworded it to make it sound better :) --MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 18:36, 11 February 2021 (UTC)

Background

• Perphaps mention the 1984 Summer Olympics were in Los Angeles?
  • question - If i do, what about the 1980 Summer Olympics? Would if flow properly if I add the city for one and not the other? Or should both cities be mentioned? --MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 19:05, 11 February 2021 (UTC)
• Mention the 2012 Summer Olympics took place in London in the first paragraph
  • Y --MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 19:05, 11 February 2021 (UTC)
• "the Laotian runners used concrete barbell weights made from paint cans and tires." - tyres
  • question - Not 100% about this one. I'm seeing results for tire and tyre. I know tyre is for British English ones like UK/Canada. Not sure if this in the case cause they were training in Laos. The source is also Singaporean as well. --MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 19:05, 11 February 2021 (UTC)
• "For the 2012 Olympics, Kilakone Siphonexay and Laenly Phoutthavong represented the country in athletics while Phathana Inthavong competed in swimming." - consider linking the sports of the participants
  • comment In my opinion, I think that'd be overlinking as they're common words. If you feel it's needed, let me know. --MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 19:05, 11 February 2021 (UTC)
• Wikilink flag bearer
  • Y and comment - similar question into the spelling of flagbearer per lead. --MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 19:05, 11 February 2021 (UTC)
• As in the lead, wikilink the word opening to 2012 Summer Olympics opening ceremony and the word closing to 2012 Summer Olympics closing ceremony in the second paragraph
  • Y --MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 19:05, 11 February 2021 (UTC)

Athletics

• Wikilink personal best to the relevant article for the uninitated
  • Y --MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 19:24, 11 February 2021 (UTC)
• "Siphonexay was one second slower than the B standard qualifying time" - maybe write out the B standard qualifying time
  • comment Would it be redundant per WP:CALC? I'd clarify that it was exactly one second slower. --MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 19:24, 11 February 2021 (UTC)
• Wikilink men's 100 m to Athletics at the 2012 Summer Olympics – Men's 100 metres in the prose
  • Y --MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 19:24, 11 February 2021 (UTC)
• "Based on his placing and time during the heats, Siphonexay did not advance to the next round." - State the reason why he did not qualify for the next round
  • comment That one and Phoutthavong I was having trouble wording it. I'll come back to those after. --MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 19:24, 11 February 2021 (UTC)
• Wikilink women's 100 m to Athletics at the 2012 Summer Olympics – Women's 100 metres in the prose
  • Y --MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 19:24, 11 February 2021 (UTC)
• "With her placing and a time of 13.15 seconds, Phoutthavong did not qualify for the first round." - Explain why she did not make it through to the next round
  • comment same as Siphonexay --MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 19:24, 11 February 2021 (UTC)
• Both the tables could do with referencing for extra verification
  • Y Thought it'd be redundant citing, but I did it as I saw Brunei at the 2012 Summer Olympics also cited the tables. --MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 20:10, 14 February 2021 (UTC)

Key

• Delete the statements that are not used in any of the tables
  • Y I originally left it as it was already there. However, now deleted as none of it was used. --MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 19:26, 11 February 2021 (UTC)

Swimming

• Wikilink men's 50 m freestyle to Swimming at the 2012 Summer Olympics – Men's 50 metre freestyle in the prose
  • Y --MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 19:33, 11 February 2021 (UTC)
• "His entry time of 28.94 seconds was 6.06 seconds slower than the invitational time for the Olympics." - maybe state the Olympic invitational time for the swimming event
  • comment Similarly, I'm not sure if it'd be redundant to mention the exact time. 22.88 was the invitational time, which is 6.06 second faster than Inthavong's time.
• "slower than the invitational time for the Olympics.[24][23]" - refs in numerical order please
  • Y I cite them in the order of the sentence they are used in. In this case, it's in the wrong order. --MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 19:32, 11 February 2021 (UTC)
• "As Inthavong did not have one of the top 16 times during the heats, Inthavong did not qualify for the semifinals." - repetition of "Inthavong"
  • Y Nice catch! --MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 19:32, 11 February 2021 (UTC)
• The results table might be better with references included for extra verification
  • comment Tweaked table as it's the heat finish placing, not overall. Also added heat time in the prose as I missed it. --MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 19:35, 11 February 2021 (UTC)
    • Y cited the table. --MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 20:10, 14 February 2021 (UTC)

References

• The dashes in some of the references need to be replaced by en dashes (–) per MOS:DASH
  • Y --MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 19:38, 11 February 2021 (UTC)

Will put the review on hold to allow the nominator to address or query the points raised above. MWright96 (talk) 17:47, 11 February 2021 (UTC)

@MWright96: Most I did, but I have some questions. Depending on when you reply, I might be away in the next hour or so as I have to go out. If that's the case, I'll reply as soon as I can. --MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 19:41, 11 February 2021 (UTC)

@MWright96: Pinging again in case you didn't see my comments above. --MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 19:53, 14 February 2021 (UTC)

@MrLinkinPark333:} Now promoting to GA class MWright96 (talk) 20:59, 14 February 2021 (UTC)

@MWright96: LOL i was editing the Athletics section to explain better why they didn't qualify. Thank you! Could you check it over since I'm looking to DYK it? --MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 21:05, 14 February 2021 (UTC)

@MrLinkinPark333: I will go over the article tomorrow MWright96 (talk) 21:09, 14 February 2021 (UTC)