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Latest comment: 15 years ago by Pedant17 in topic Inadequate sourcing of attendance statistics


Inadequate sourcing of attendance statistics

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At 1704 hours on July 1, 2008 a Wikipedian added a statistic to the article, but omitted to add an access-date or a direct quote from the source. The cited link no longer makes claims as to how many people participate in the Landmark Forum annually. We can provide a more precise picture of attendance statistics by comparing previous and subsequent figures and their sources from the Wikipedia archives and the current Landmark Education page, which makes no mention of 2005 but claims "[m]ore than 200,000" participants in "[all programs]" annually -- see: "Landmark Education: About Us". Landmark Education website. Landmark Education. Retrieved 2009-06-07. More than 200,000 people participate in Landmark's courses each year. {{cite web}}: Cite has empty unknown parameters: |month= and |coauthors= (help) -- Pedant17 (talk) 06:41, 7 June 2009 (UTC)


Impeccable statistics courtesy of Landmark Education

Date of publication of statistics Cumulative Landmark Forum participants Participants per year (all courses) Employees Program -leaders Offices Countries Cities hosting courses Turnover Corporate clients Date retrieved Source
2002-04-06 > 600,000 > 125,000 43 [17] > 100 2009-06-26 Landmark Education[1]
2002-05-25 > 100,000 > 200 2009-06-26 Landmark Education[2]
2002-11-28 600,000 60 21 2007-03-04 Landmark Education[3]
2003-01-28 > 100,000 > 200 2009-06-26 Landmark Education[4]
2003-02-05 > 600,000 ca. 750 [as of 2001-01-01] 43 [17] 2009-06-26 Landmark Education[5]
2003-05-27 60 21 2009-06-25 Landmark Education[6]
2003-07-29 600,000 60 24 2007-03-04 Landmark Education[7]
2003-10-20 almost 600,000 60 21 2009-06-25 Landmark Education[8]
2003-10-20 > 125,000 > 400 60 21 > 100 2009-06-25 Landmark Education[9]
2004-02-22 60 21 2009-06-25 Landmark Education[10]
2004-02-22 almost 600,000 60 21 2009-06-25 Landmark Education[11]
2004-02-23 > 125,000 400 60 21 > 100 2009-06-25 Landmark Education[12]
2004-03-11 > 100,000 > 200 2009-06-26 Landmark Education[13]
2004-03-19 > 600,000 > 125,000 43 [17] > 100 2009-06-26 Landmark Education[14]
2004-06-10 600,000 58 26 2007-03-04 Landmark Education[15]
2004-12-07 58 26 2009-06-25 Landmark Education[16]
2004-12-08 almost 600,000 60 21 2009-06-25 Landmark Education[17]
2004-12-08 > 125,000 400 58 23 > 100 2009-06-25 Landmark Education[18]
2004-12-08 > 400 > 850 [2003 income] > US$ 67,000,000 2009-06-25 Landmark Education[19]
2005-10-23 > 145,000 400 52 21 2009-06-26 Landmark Education[20]
2005-10-23 almost 800,000 52 21 2009-06-25 Landmark Education[21]
2005-10-23 > 400 > 700 [2004 income] > US$70,000,000 2009-06-26 Landmark Education[22]
2005-12-14 > 722 ca US$70,000,000 2009-06-26 Landmark Education[23]
2005-12-14 > 800,000 52 21 2000-06-25 Landmark Education[24]
2005-12-14 > 145,000 > 400 52 21 2009-06-25 Landmark Education[25]
2006-02-07 758,000 58 26 2007-03-04 Landmark Education[26]
2006-04-27 > 160,000 450 51 22 2009-06-26 Landmark Education[27]
2006-05-03 51 22 2009-06-26 Landmark Education[28]
2006-05-04 > 880,000 51 22 2009-06-26 Landmark Education[29]
2006-08-31 > 160,000 450 51 22 2009-06-26 Landmark Education[30]
2006-12-05 51 22 2009-06-25 Landmark Education[31]
2007-01-11 > 880,000 51 22 2009-06-26 Landmark Education[32]
2007-02-08 > 160,000 450 51 22 2009-06-26 Landmark Education[33]
2007-03-05 > 450 > 650 ca US$86,000,000 2009-06-25 Landmark Education[34]
2007-03-05 > 160,000 > 450 51 25 2009-06-25 Landmark Education[35]
2007-04-15 51 25 2009-06-25 Landmark Education[36]
2007-08-05 > 160,000 450 51 25 > 100 2009-06-25 Landmark Education[37]
2007-08-07 > 160,000 450 51 25 > 100 2009-06-25 Landmark Education[38]
2007-08-08 > 450 > 650 [2006 income] > US$86,000,000 2009-06-25 Landmark Education[39]
2007-09-07 > 1,000,000 51 25 2009-06-25 Landmark Education[40]
2007-09-07 > 160,000 > 450 51 25 2009-06-25 Landmark Education[41]
2007-09-07 51 25 2009-06-25 Landmark Education[42]
2007-10-17 51 25 2009-06-25 Landmark Education[43]
2007-10-29 1,000,000 51 25 2007-10-29 Landmark Education[44]
2007-11-19 > 160,000 > 450 51 25 2009-06-25 Landmark Education[45]
2007-11-24 > 1,000,000 51 25 2009-06-25 Landmark Education[46]
2007-11-24 > 450 > 650 [2006] ca US$86,000,000 2009-06-25 Landmark Education[47]
2008-01-16 > 160,000 465 51 25 2009-06-26 Landmark Education[48]
2008-01-18 51 25 2009-06-25 Landmark Education[49]
2008-01-19 > 160,000 > 450 51 25 2009-06-25 Landmark Education[50]
2009-06-25 55 20 2009-06-25 Landmark Education[51]
2009-06-25 > 200,000 > 450 55 20 2009-06-25 Landmark Education[52]
2009-06-25 > 450 >780 [2008] ca US$89,000,000 2009-06-25 Landmark Education[53]
2009-06-25 > 1,100,000 55 20 2009-06-25 Landmark Education[54]


I recommend verifying these figures soonest. When Wikipedia published statistics like these early in 2007, the owners of the website www.landmarkeducation.com cut off access to their archived pages within days. -- Pedant17 (talk) 02:18, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

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