Talk:Lamá (footballer, born 1981)

Requested move 25 May 2021

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: moved. (closed by non-admin page mover) Elli (talk | contribs) 05:00, 3 June 2021 (UTC)

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Lamá (Angolan footballer) → Lamá (footballer, born 1981) – Per naming convention. The subject should first be disambiguated by birth year, rather than nationality. Nehme₁₄₉₉ 21:45, 23 May 2021 (UTC)

This is a contested technical request (permalink).  — Amakuru (talk) 07:48, 25 May 2021 (UTC)

• @Nehme1499: Naming conventions allow disambiguation by nationality, and in this case Mozambican vs Angolan may be more distinctive than 1981 vs 1985. At minimum, deserves discussion. Station1 (talk) 01:41, 24 May 2021 (UTC)

  @Station1: This would have strong implications on the current naming conventions used by WP:FOOTY, and would require a project-wide discussion. Nehme₁₄₉₉ 13:14, 24 May 2021 (UTC)

  @Station1: As probably one of the more prolific closers of sports-related RMs, I can confirm that this is the naming convention for these moves, and that hundreds (thousands?) of them have been processed without controversy since the establishment of that convention. Unless you or another watcher of this page can propose a good reason why not, I plan to fulfill this RM/TR. Vaticidalprophet 15:36, 24 May 2021 (UTC)

  The guideline clearly says nationality is allowed, and there have been recent RMs where consensus was for nationality. Contested move requests go to the article's talk page for discussion and consensus; it is inappropriate to threaten a unilateral move. Station1 (talk) 18:56, 24 May 2021 (UTC)

  Yep, Wikipedia:Naming_conventions_(sportspeople)#Association_football_(soccer) - "If the footballers have different nationalities, use their nationality in the disambiguation." which is in line with WP:NCPDAB "Years of birth and death are not normally used as disambiguators (readers are more likely to be seeking this information than to already know it)" So moving this to "Lamá (footballer, born 1981)" is against BOTH guidelines. Lugnuts ^{Fire Walk with Me} 07:40, 25 May 2021 (UTC)

Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related page moves. GiantSnowman 11:34, 25 May 2021 (UTC)

• Support per WP:NCSP and standard convention to avoid using nationality for footballer articles wherever possible, given that nationality is fluid and can be confusing. GiantSnowman 11:38, 25 May 2021 (UTC)
• Support per nom. -- Necrothesp (talk) 15:33, 27 May 2021 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.