Talk:Lagoon triggerfish

Latest comment: 1 year ago by Softlavender in topic Naming

Naming edit

I note that FishBase doesn't actually list "Picasso Triggerfish" as a known name, although Google shows plenty of hits (hmm, fishbase vs google, which is more weighty??). Stan 18:29, 12 April 2006 (UTC)Reply


A very unscientific research:

  • "Picasso Triggerfish": 14700 Google hits
  • "Picassofish" (the official English fishbase name): 773 Google hits
  • "Picasso fish" (not available in the fishbase list): 9820 Google hits

Is there any consensus on what name should be used for fish? Personally, I would opt for the latin species name as that works everywhere. Pretty much all fish species have dozens of different names. If we stick to common English names, I vote for what is most common in Google, which is democracy at work. Anyway it seems that fishbase needs to update its common names list for this species. Janderk 22:40, 12 April 2006 (UTC)Reply

FishBase actually lists a dozen names in English, sort their page by language to see them all grouped together. "White-banded triggerfish" is FAO-blessed, but Google gives it a paltry 40 hits. Other FishBase names do similarly poorly. While I'm generally loath to go against the 1000+ experts who contribute to FishBase, and Google hit counts should always be treated with suspicion, 100-1 results are hard to explain away. So "Picasso Triggerfish" is OK by me. (Re latin, I've heard mention of an effort to come up with official English-language names for all fishes, a la birds, so latin not necessarily a better choice.) Stan 23:59, 12 April 2006 (UTC)Reply
I added a redirect for Picasso fish as that name is often used according to Google. And a side related issue I moved the article to Picasso triggerfish to get the capitalization in accordance with WP:FISH.

This isn't the Humuhumu-nukunuku-apua'a, the Humu is rhinecanthus rectangulus see <http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/session2006/Bills/HB1982_SD1_.htm> Doggo 20:18, 26 April 2006 (UTC)Reply

Thanks, I have removed the two-species claim from both articles, until and unless some better sourcing than was previously there can be found. Softlavender (talk) 23:40, 9 May 2023 (UTC)Reply

Blackbar triggerfish edit

Blackbar triggerfish appears to be the most common name for this species. I would move the page, but it needs a RfM due to previous moves. According to some books, the Picasso fish is rhinecanthus rectangulus, however, it looks like it is actually Rhinecanthus assasi. —Viriditas | Talk 08:34, 20 July 2007 (UTC)Reply

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Protection necessary? edit

I believe some form of protection is necessary for this page currently. A video of a lagoon triggerfish has become a "meme" recently, and there has been some minor vandalism on this page as a result. I do not have the power to enforce protection, though I do believe a protection period of 1-3 weeks would be beneficial, as memes appear to be short-lived.

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