Talk:Labor federation competition in the United States

class consciousness

I had considered linking to Class consciousness from the text in the article. However, the class consciousness of the WFM and the (Western/American) Labor Union federations, in my view, were a "secularized" version of the marxist concept of class consciousness. Unfortunately, alternative interpretations-- the socialist and anarchist descriptions, for example-- of class consciousness have been purged from the class consciousness article.

The IWW had its own informal notions of class consciousness, a philosophy which in practice has seemed much more acceptable to the U.S. working class. These notions gave a nod to Marx, but staked out a uniquely American re-interpretation, signalled by slang. For example, a proletarian became a "prole," and a plutocrat was called a "plute." The significance of these expressions is subtle, but substantial-- they basically declare that Wobblies don't accept the idea of some vanguard telling us how to talk, or what to do.

I have thought about creating a separate article describing the alternate theories of class consciousness, and linking to the existing page for the marxist version. Alternatively, fighting the marxists to make the page less sectarian is a (daunting, but perhaps preferable) possibility. In any case, i won't link to that page as it is. Feedback invited. Richard Myers 18:55, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

If you only linked to articles that I thought were really good, I wouldn't be making many links at all! I would suggest adding the link and then fixing the article it points to (or vice versa). When you update the article, be sure to explain what you're doing in the discussion tab to discourage others from using the false concept of NPOV to limit the range of historical viewpoints.RevelationDirect (talk) 00:38, 6 October 2008 (UTC)

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