Talk:LTV A-7 Corsair II/Archive 1

Archive 1

Archive 2

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This page needs to be standardized with those for the other aircraft in this series.

This article has been updated to conform to the WikiProject Aircraft manual of style: Wikipedia:WikiProject_Aircraft/page_content - Emt147 ^Burninate! 04:46, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

Ridiculous Question

Was it really 'short little ugly FELLER' like it always says in the books - or was it something else beginning with F? I've wondered for years. Notreallydavid 17:45, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

My conversations with Air Force veterans of A-7D operations "back in the day" taught me that "feller" is .... um... euphemized. "F" in "SLUF" did, indeed, stand for the American military universal indeterminate noun of copulatory provenance. Compare the first item B-52 Stratofortress#Trivia to see the Strategic Air Command contemporary to this usage.--Gnoitall 18:49, 28 December 2006 (UTC)

Not vandalism

That wasn't vandalism. J. Russell Clark(sorry don't have his first name) was at the head of the team of engineers who designed the A-7. I read this in a book: Les bombardiers Américains by Patrick Facon (Editions Atlas 1992). I don't suppose it's very imporant though. Just didn't want people to think i was vandalizing.Raoulduke47 17:11, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

Sorry! I wasn't totally certain it was vandalism, which is why I added "apparent". You'd be surprised how many users we get who think it's funny to put their own or their friends' names in that slot. I did check your talk page first, but I didn't see any aviation-related itmes, so I thought it might be someone using your comp who decided to have some "fun". I later checked your contributions list, and saw that you have been editing aircraft articles. We aren't using the "Designer" field much anymore; see Template talk:Infobox Aircraft#Designer for a detailed explanation on why. Happy editing, and sorry again for the mistake. - BillCJ 17:25, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

Va 46 commanded by Cmd. Matheney, 1978 cruise to the Med. I knew Capt Tuttle who was also called sluf for his call sign. I asked him about that one day when He and I were walking along the starboad passage way on the 2nd deck and he said because that is what he is a short little ugly f....... At the same on that cruise in 1978 we lost a great Pilot from VA46. He name is Lt. Kincaid. He left behind a great wife and family. She had it hard for a few months but we of the squadron all helped her out while she went through the transition from a Navy wife to a navy Widow going into Civilian life. Lt Kincaid Was Ordered to be launched by Capt Tuttle and get that Plane off of my dam ship.. Reasons are unknown as to why he ordered the launch as he knew that the angle deck launch was having problems with steaming pressuring up. Take care fellow squadron mates. Lt.Col August Sheldon TXSG Retired back then I was an E-5-MS-2

Outstanding Photos

This article has really evolved into excellence. I like the mix of air force and navy A-7 photos that have been contributed. Good show to everyone who has spent time adding to this! Bwmoll3 (talk) 22:38, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

Planes on Display

Just added a line about a static plane on display here in portugal. 88.214.143.119 (talk) 02:22, 15 September 2008 (UTC)

NAVAIR 01-45AAE-1

What is this - it is used for cites without any details in the reference section - details are need here.Nigel Ish (talk) 16:06, 3 October 2009 (UTC)

It is a flight manual for A-7C/E based on web pages like this. And here's another page that lists several Nav Air manuals. -Fnlayson (talk) 19:53, 3 October 2009 (UTC)

Specifications?

I have a couple books with specs for the A-7E. Any particular reason the A-7D is the variant used for the specs? Looks like far more E models were built. -Fnlayson (talk) 04:12, 4 October 2009 (UTC)

Seems reasonable to use the E - after all the D and E were pretty similar.Nigel Ish (talk) 10:29, 4 October 2009 (UTC)

Since the current D specs are uncited, I think we just need to find a good source for specs for either the D or E. I think if we find both, we'll see there aren't much, if any, differences between the two for the parameters that we use. - BilCat (talk) 16:01, 4 October 2009 (UTC)

• Guys, I could help with changing the Specifications to that of A-7E since I already have a source for it, thoughts anyone? --Dave1185 (talk) 17:45, 4 October 2009 (UTC)

Thanks. I'm working on E-model specs now, but don't have some data. Maybe you can fill in the holes a little later? -Fnlayson (talk) 17:49, 4 October 2009 (UTC)

• Hakuna matata! =) --Dave1185 (talk) 17:55, 4 October 2009 (UTC)

I added the E data I have. I left the D-model specs in another section. That might be useful for something, maybe like covering an earlier variant. -Fnlayson (talk) 18:02, 4 October 2009 (UTC)

Where there any major differentce between the two? Also, have either of you run across specs for the YA-7F? It's a unique variat that might be worthy of its own articel, if we can find enough info on it. - BilCat (talk) 18:06, 4 October 2009 (UTC)

• The total hardpoint capability is listed as 20,000 lb in the -7D specs vs. 15,000 lb for the E model. Have no idea if that's right for the D though. -Fnlayson (talk) 18:43, 4 October 2009 (UTC)

According to The Encyclopedia of World Military Aircraft by David Donald and Lon Lake, 20,000 lb is a "theoretical" maximum ordnance load with 15,000 lb practical with reduced internal fuel. Janes All the World's Aircraft 76-77 gives 15,000 lb.Nigel Ish (talk) 19:10, 4 October 2009 (UTC)

• Yep... from the looks of it, I'd say that either someone high up in USAF wanted a one up on the USN (which, I won't be completely surprised if it really was as such~!) or it was just a plain clerical error. --Dave1185 (talk) 19:15, 4 October 2009 (UTC)

I had forgotten about this. Anyway, I just remove the A-7D specs. The A-7E specs should cover it. A subsection could be added for an earlier variant if different enough from the E-model. -Fnlayson (talk) 17:06, 20 March 2010 (UTC)

Inaccuracy

"One of the A-6 pilots, Lt. Mark Lange, was killed; his Bombadier Navigator, Robert Goodman, ejected and was captured by the Syrians. From the A-7, LCDR Coughlin and his B/N, Hellman, ejected and were rescued, though both suffered severe injuries.[citation needed]"

The A-7 was a single-seat aircraft in the Navy, except for trainers. I doubt they were flying a trainer during the Syrian operation. There couldn't have been a "B/N" in the A-7. Perhaps the author meant wingman. I have seen this reference repeated twice in Wikipedia, and several other places on the internet when searching for LCDR Coughlin, but I can't find any official record. In my brief history with the A-7 as an avionics technician, I never heard the word "B/N" used in reference to the A-7, as the pilot was both pilot and "B/N". However, "B/N' is a term used to describe the right seater of the A-6, as I learned during subsequent duties in A-6 squadrons after the decommissioning of the A-7 program. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 204.27.62.46 (talk) 16:10, 20 March 2010 (UTC)