Talk:LGBT themes in African diasporic mythologies
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Reliability of Source
editI'm starting to question the reliability of Cassell's Encyclopedia of Queer Myth, Symbol & Spirit, which is referenced multiple times here, as a source. The book does not use any footnotes or in-line references and makes many assertions I've been unable to find anywhere else. When this article gets reviewed, I'd be interested in the reviewer taking a good look at the assertions which link only to that book. Markwiki (talk) 19:41, 12 February 2010 (UTC)
- I am just going through some of the articles created by the same advocate editor known for inserting their POV and wrongly quoting refs. Not to mention going outside the scope of the article with other irrelevant stuff. I will be deleting all relevant stuff which has nothing to do with the topic. Also, I have just gone through the West Africa section. Many African deities are seen as possessing both male and female principles meaning the creator usually through their maternal principle and protector through the male principle. They can be she, he or it when invoking them. Now can someone tell me what on earth does this have to do with LGBT? I am losing my mind or is this just a known advocate trying to push his agenda on Wikipedia as evident throughout the articles they've created? I suspect the later. I will be working on the article and will remove any non sense.2.30.15.216 (talk) 08:56, 8 April 2015 (UTC)
- Assigning a concept as LGBT, or queer, is much more complicated than a yes or no. It can be helpful to view non-Western conceptions of sexuality and gender as inherently 'queer', because it deviates from Western norms, which is how we solidified some of the conceptions of sexuality and gender that have been harmful to anyone who deviates from them. Mythology, to me, is where we get tropes and stereotypes from. Polytheistic deities are more like different facets of one larger entity. I am not a Christian (it reflects the idea of the Christian Holy Trinity all being manifestations of the one true God) but this is how mythos at large makes sense to me. Nyxtingale (talk) 07:11, 16 September 2023 (UTC)
- I am just going through some of the articles created by the same advocate editor known for inserting their POV and wrongly quoting refs. Not to mention going outside the scope of the article with other irrelevant stuff. I will be deleting all relevant stuff which has nothing to do with the topic. Also, I have just gone through the West Africa section. Many African deities are seen as possessing both male and female principles meaning the creator usually through their maternal principle and protector through the male principle. They can be she, he or it when invoking them. Now can someone tell me what on earth does this have to do with LGBT? I am losing my mind or is this just a known advocate trying to push his agenda on Wikipedia as evident throughout the articles they've created? I suspect the later. I will be working on the article and will remove any non sense.2.30.15.216 (talk) 08:56, 8 April 2015 (UTC)
This article as should be deleted because it has no real citation. Only one source is cited to make spurious claims about Vodou and other Afro Diaporic deities being LGBT, bisexual, wanting anal sex etc....this is an insult to vodou practitioners. Research into vodou and other Afro-diasporic religions show that the relations that the lwas have are just symbols, analogies but they are not statements about human sexuality. In fact, the Gods/Spirits do not have sex contrary to what the original author states. This is clearly an article written by an LGBT think-tank to push their views therefore attempting to colonize a non-western cultural tradition. Baron Samedi is not bisexual; the lwas in Vodou usually come in two: husband-wife; male-female because they are about polarity. The fact that the lwas often have a male and female counterpart show that Afro-Diasporic cultures/religions are founded on pro-creation, on complementarity, etc...Delete the bate because it's beyond repair.
More Regions
editExamining this for a 3rd-year university-level course. Room to add information from more African diasporic mythologies (ie. not just Haiti and Louisiana). There are lots of different diasporic cultures to look at, though it makes sense (to me) that Haitian Voudu is most known. One method is to add and group mythologies together based on regions in the West Indies: Greater Antilles, Lesser Antilles, and the other more isolated islands. There is also plenty of room to focus on different mythologies that stayed and evolved within the African continent. Nyxtingale (talk) 06:13, 23 September 2023 (UTC)