Talk:LAR Grizzly Win Mag

Ammo count per mag for each cartridge?

I'm a little confused as to exactly how many bullets there are per mag for each caliber. Is it just seven for the .44? the .50 AE? Certainly it can't be the ammo count per mag for the 9 mm...

Please clear this up by putting in the appropriate amount of bullets per mag per cartridge under the "Feed System" section. Or if anyone has the information, please post it here so that I may do the edit myself.

76.89.151.184 (talk) 00:44, 27 August 2011 (UTC)

Quantities Produced

Jim Dolson reported the following production numbers:

"THE MARK 5 STARTED AT V000001, WELL LET ME SAY THIS I KNOW THEY STARTED LOW BECAUSE I HAVE V000004 AND V000005. THERE WERE 1246 MADE OF THE MARK V. THERE WERE ALMOST 12,000 MARK I THERE WAS ABOUT 200 OF THE MARK 2, ABOUT 200 OF THE 8 INCH LONG SLIDES, ABOUT 200 10 INCH LONG SLIDES AND 1000 MARK 4 (600 were finished, the remaining 400 were raw castings). THE EIGHT INCH AND THE TEN INCH WERE BOTH MARK 1. THERE WERE CONVERSION KITS MADE FOR ALL BUT THE MARK 4." — Preceding unsigned comment added by 131.215.115.31 (talk) 18:27, 18 September 2015 (UTC)

Updated content

I have recast the article somewhat to reflect anecdotal communication with persons associated with the production and sale of the guns, as well as owners. The Grizzly is one of those rare guns, like the FA, Detonics, and Springfield Omega that suffers from a paucity of living authorities willing to write scholarly papers or books. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 131.215.115.31 (talk) 16:48, 25 September 2015 (UTC)

Most Powerful SA Pistol

The Wildey pistol chambered for .475 Wildey is certainly the most powerful ever produced, but as far as I can tell, was made to order for individual customers. Handloaders working with the Grizzly pistol have discovered that the pistol can be loaded to much higher energy levels than the 1000 ft/lbs of the heaviest commercial load. More a testament to the flexibility of the 1911 design than anything to do with the Arnett patent. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 131.215.115.31 (talk) 18:08, 13 November 2015 (UTC)

Other Things

A few handloaders have reported markedly higher velocities for the Grizzly compared to the Desert Eagle and Coonan in 357. I have noticed that the chambers of Grizzly barrels are on the tight side, with the bullet of a correct SAAMI-sized cartridge touching or nearly touching the lands. Other explanations are possible. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 131.215.115.31 (talk) 22:09, 3 November 2016 (UTC)

There are many Grizzly pistols seen with hard chrome plating, usually all matte, rarely polished flats. Chrome plating was done as a factory option (Guns sent to Bob Cogan by the factory have AA serial numbers in the normal sequence of the Mark I), or more commonly the customer was referred by the factory to Bob Cogan at Accurate Plating. Any additional details about chrome plated Grizzly pistols would be appreciated. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 131.215.115.31 (talk) 16:19, 18 January 2017 (UTC)

Serial Numbers

Lar Grizzly pistol serial numbers are found in several sequences. The Mark I pistols exist with "P" prefixed serial numbers, indicating prototype guns, "A" for Mark I guns, "AA" For Mark I "returns" (according to Jim Dolson). ). “Mark I long slide guns use an “E prefix for the eight inch (8") version and a “T” prefix for the ten inch (10") version. Mark IV guns use an "F" prefix. Mark V guns use a "V" prefix. All serial numbers include six digits, and ranges begin with 000001. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 131.215.115.31 (talk) 01:07, 9 February 2017 (UTC)

Guns with serial numbers like "BLANK000006" are fabrications of unknown origin. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 131.215.115.31 (talk) 23:50, 8 May 2017 (UTC)

Heinz Augat

I see that Heinz Augat has added himself as co-designer. I have no doubt that he was, but would love to have some details, if he ever comes back to look at this page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 131.215.115.31 (talk) 21:24, 23 March 2018 (UTC)