Talk:Kype

In the beginning...

@Atsme:@Tryptofish:@Epipelagic: To my Favourite Fishy Friends and others. I've just created this article for a word I had not heard up until a week ago! I'd like to take it to DYK in a couple of days, so if you have any comments, they would be much appreciated. Cheers. DrChrissy ^(talk) 18:40, 27 April 2016 (UTC)

Looking good. Perhaps it could be titled "Kype", since it doesn't really need disambiguating. Other uses of the word seem uncommon, one referring to an eel trap and the other a colloquial term for a small theft. I've added a link to Salmon run, since that article discusses kypes more than once. --Epipelagic (talk) 19:20, 27 April 2016 (UTC)

Thanks. In researching it, I saw occasional reports of the term in computer programming and in mathematics. I'm looking to the future by adding "anatomy", but perfectly happy to take it out. DrChrissy ^(talk) 20:05, 27 April 2016 (UTC)

Congrats on a very nice page. I learned from it. I made a few humble tweaks that I hope will help. --Tryptofish (talk) 00:36, 28 April 2016 (UTC)

It's going to be fun when you start writing the hook about a hook for your DYK nom. Interesting article - we're never too young to learn. ^{Atsme📞📧} 05:57, 28 April 2016 (UTC)

Hook on a hook! How did I miss that, myself?! --Tryptofish (talk) 00:11, 29 April 2016 (UTC)

I guess I was too distracted by the bait. --Tryptofish (talk) 01:39, 29 April 2016 (UTC)

Well my Fine Fishy Friends, I have hooked my hook and cast my line into the bay of DYK nominations. Let's hope an edit-fish takes the bait and goes on a salmon-run with it. DrChrissy ^(talk) 16:02, 29 April 2016 (UTC)

Discussion of close paraphrasing

I'm putting a link here, to Template:Did you know nominations/Kype (anatomy), where another editor has raised concerns about close paraphrasing. I have not checked for myself and I am making no claims one way or another, but I simply want to provide a convenient link for editors, until the discussion is resolved. --Tryptofish (talk) 21:06, 5 May 2016 (UTC)

I have just left a message at DYK for the editor that raised the issue. I have requested they indicate where in the article they believe close paraphrasing has occurred. DrChrissy ^(talk) 15:22, 6 May 2016 (UTC)

DrChrissy, Tryptofish, I am confirming the close paraphrasing noted by Nikkimaria. It's obvious to anyone who actually looks at the second source she mentions (currently FN5 in the article; the second use of it in the article is almost word for word at points). I strongly recommend that you use the Duplication Detector (linked to in the DYK toolbox on every DYK template editing page under "WMFLabs Dup detector") on all of the available sources, because it shows the identical passages clearly, and looking at most of them you can see the similarities in the joining material as well. Indeed, since this has been an issue on more than one DYK submission, it might be a good idea to do this on your articles as a general rule.

In fact, the close paraphrasing was so blatant, and so easy to see just by looking at the source and the cited material for that second source, that I rejected the DYK nomination per Nikkimaria's review: she gave you more than enough information to correct the problem. (Having done a Duplication detector check, I can confirm issues with both of the sources she mentioned; I have not checked the other online sources.) BlueMoonset (talk) 02:53, 20 May 2016 (UTC)

BlueMoonset: thank you for looking into that. DrChrissy: please take this as very serious feedback, and please feel free to follow up with me at my user talk. --Tryptofish (talk) 23:42, 20 May 2016 (UTC)

Fighting salmon

The article says right now, Others have suggested it has no function, and observed the kype seems to prevent the use of the breeding teeth which sometimes develop alongside the kype. These fish would beg to differ. I doubt the aggressor has the bite force necessary to cause all that much damage, but, perhaps like human males, winning a fight does not mean bringing the opponent to within an inch of death, but showing that you *could* get there if you really went at it.

I would like to see if we could get a picture of male salmon fighting each other ... or a male attacking a female, as that has also been seen in the wild ... onto the page just so long as we can either find one of free use or acquire permission from one of the photographers. —Soap— 00:06, 23 November 2017 (UTC)