Talk:Kylie Minogue (album)/GA1

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Reviewer: K. Peake (talk · contribs) 13:58, 5 March 2021 (UTC)

Good Article review progress box Criteria: 1a. prose () 1b. MoS () 2a. ref layout () 2b. cites WP:RS () 2c. no WP:OR () 2d. no WP:CV () 3a. broadness () 3b. focus () 4. neutral () 5. stable () 6a. free or tagged images () 6b. pics relevant () Note: this represents where the article stands relative to the Good Article criteria. Criteria marked are unassessed

I will start reviewing later on, but this article is quite large so it admittedly won't be fully reviewed until tomorrow. --K. Peake 13:58, 5 March 2021 (UTC)

Infobox and lead

• Remove the usage of the word "studios" in the studio parameter per Template:Infobox album
• "Mushroom Records released it in Australia." → "while a release was issued through Mushroom Records in Australia on the same date."
• "with the independent label" → "with the independent record label" with the wikilink
• "After unsuccessful sessions" → "After generally unsuccessful sessions"
• "containing elements of electronic dance," → "containing elements of dance," with the target, as this is what the section really backs up
• "Minogue showcases her vocal range in the mid-tempo tracks" this is not properly referenced, only being mentioned for one track in the body
• "seduction, womanhood, and the enjoyment of life." → "seduction and womanhood." per British English, plus only one song is about the enjoyment
• Target Music critics to Music journalism
• "and deemed it the start of a new phase in her" → "while observing the start of a new phase in Minogue's"
• "It experienced moderate success worldwide, peaked in" → "The album peaked in" because the "moderate success" part is not appropriate lead language
• "and was certified gold" → "alongside being certified gold"
• "The album attained top 40" → "It attained top 40"
• "in Sweden, Switzerland and" → "in Switzerland, Sweden and" for consistency with the reverse alphabetical order
• "a limited coffee-table book" → "a limited edition coffee-table book" with the target
• ""Put Yourself in My Place", and" → ""Put Yourself in My Place" and"
• "Highly popular film projects" part is not properly sourced, only being mentioned in the lead for one delay
• "the album dropped" → "Kylie Minogue dropped"
• "Kylie Minogue was re-issued" → "The album was re-issued"

All done. Damian Vo (talk) 04:49, 7 March 2021 (UTC)

Background

• Target Deconstruction to Deconstruction Records on the quotebox
• "In 1991, Kylie Minogue released" → "In 1991, Minogue released"
• [6][3] should be put in numerical order
• Wikilink record labels
• Target indie label to Independent record label
• Target dance to Dance music
• "to forgo a major label contract." → "to sign an indie label contract." per the source
• [11][10] put in numerical order
• "liked [their] attitude," → "liked [Destruction's] attitude," because you have not mentioned the label name for a while plus [] is for paraphrasing

All done. Damian Vo (talk) 04:49, 7 March 2021 (UTC)

Recording and development

1993: Early sessions

• "but their work was scrapped" → "but their work was mostly scrapped." per punctuation and since they have credits on other editions
• "and intended to push her" → "with him intending to push her"
• Remove wikilink on dance music
• [14][1] put in numerical order
• Target pop to Pop music
• "in planning the album" → "in planning for the album"
• "Minogue was flattered and" → "She was flattered and" to avoid starting two consecutive sentences with her surname
• "said that this attempt suggests" → "said that this attempt suggested"
• "the making of her album." → "the making of the album."
• Maybe you should mention around the "were scrapped" part that however, Saint Etienne had involvement with the album editions?
• Target Bob Stanley to Bob Stanley (musician)
• "later remarked that her camp" → "later remarked that the singer's camp" to be specific
• Target single to Single (music)
• ""When Are You Coming Home?" but dropped it" → ""When Are You Coming Home?", but scrapped the song"
• "on the tracklist and was the only song listing" → "on the tracklist of Kylie Minogue and was the only song to list"
• "approached her to work" → "approached Minogue to work" since this is a new para
• Introduce who Prince is
• "she had written, entitled "Baby Doll". Prince" → "she had written for a song entitled "Baby Doll"; Prince" because the sentences are too short
• "making Mama Said (1991), and" → "making his fourth studio album Mama Said (1991) and"
• "Minogue and Bobby Gillespie" → "The singer and Bobby Gillespie"
• [22] should not be mid-sentence when it is also invoked at the end
• "but their record company" → "but their record label"
• [22][19] put in numerical order
• Lowercase the Beloved and the Auteurs per MOS:THEMUSIC
• "for the album but they" → "for Kylie Minogue, but the material"
• The source says nothing about the song not being released on the album

All done. Damian Vo (talk) 04:50, 7 March 2021 (UTC)

1993–1994: Later development

• "Deconstruction co-founders Keith Blackhurst and Pete Hadfield were" → "Hadfield and fellow Deconstruction co-founder Keith Blackhurst were"
• Target electronic to Electronic music
• "Minogue met the pair at" → "Minogue met Brothers in Rhythm at"
• [24][16] put in numerical order
• Img looks good!
• [25][12] put in numerical order on both occasions
• "vocals. She gained confidence" → "vocals, while she gained confidence"
• "recording the album." → "recording Kylie Minogue."
• "chief producer, and produced four tracks on the album:" → "chief producer and produced four of the tracks:"
• [28] should be solely at the end of the para since it is used for both the penultimate and last sentences
• Remove comma after Power Station
• "outside the United Kingdom." → "outside the UK."
• [28][21] put in numerical order
• No source says specifically that "Intuition" was recorded during those sessions
• "work with SAW, and" → "work with SAW and"
• [31][19] put in numerical order on both occasions
• Identify the duo name of Pete Heller and Terry Farley
• "Label mate M People" → "Minogue's label mate M People"
• "for the album but" → "for Kylie Minogue, but"
• [28][19] put in numerical order on both occasions
• "on the final album are" → "on the album are"
• Remove comma after "Time Will Pass You By"

All done. Damian Vo (talk) 04:50, 7 March 2021 (UTC)

Music and lyrics

• Remove comma before that
• Elements of hip hop, acid jazz and club music are also listed by PopMatters; shouldn't you mention these?

Great catch! Added to the paragraph. Damian Vo (talk) 04:58, 7 March 2021 (UTC)

• [32][13] put in numerical order
• "wrote that the record is" → "wrote that the album is"
• "found the album includes" → "found Kylie Minogue includes"
• "described the album as" → "describe the album as" because that is a biography quote, not an online source one
• Digital Spy should not be italicised
• "dance productions, and tracks" → "dance productions and tracks"
• "embrace of club music that emulate" → "embracement of club music that emulates"
• Target 12" to Twelve-inch single
• Audio sample looks good!
• "The album opens with" → "Kylie Minogue opens with"
• The first source mentions the song's indie pop elements, rather than indie itself or dance-pop
• "features an orchestral arrangement by" → "features an arrangement by" per the source
• "because of the interpolations" → "because of the interpolation" with the target
• Add the liner notes before [38], as they are needed for a source of the name he is credited under
• Remove target on Balearic pop
• "jazz, and R&B-influences," → "jazz and R&B-influences,"
• Why is [13] here when it offers no mention of the track?

The track is mentioned: "the sensuous jazz entreaties of “Surrender” and “Automatic Love”". Damian Vo (talk) 04:48, 7 March 2021 (UTC)

• [35][34] put in numerical order
• Wikilink Tia Carrere
• [13] calls the track disco and acid jazz-based so reword accordingly, plus why is [14] here when it backs up nothing again?
• Wikilink power ballad per MOS:LINK2SECT
• Target trip-hop to Trip hop
• Why is [14] here when it does not back up any of the sentence?
• [35][40][34] put in numerical order
• "is a ballad" → "is a chilled-out track" per the source calling it this and not a ballad
• "that showed Minogue" → "that show Minogue" but none of this sentence is backed up by the source

From the source: "sensuous jazz entreaties of 'Surrender' and 'Automatic Love'. These ballads had Minogue eager in her burgeoning womanhood". Damian Vo (talk) 04:48, 7 March 2021 (UTC)

• [13] should solely be at the end of the sentence
• "Minogue whispered the lyrics" → "Minogue whispers the lyrics" because this is about the song itself, not its recording
• Again, [13] does not back up the material of the last two sentences of this para

From the source: “Where Has the Love Gone?” and “Falling”, tempestuous uptempos, veered from the traditional CD length; letting the arrangements breathe, the songs were deliciously fussy with lines like "I'm a woman and I've got my vanity". Damian Vo (talk) 04:48, 7 March 2021 (UTC)

• "encapsulated Minogue's trademark" → "encapsulates Minogue's trademark" but only the piano house part is sourced

From the source: "Minogue's trademark “joie de vivre” that encapsulated her "Smilie Kylie" days (think "Got To Be Certain") got a sophisticated makeover on the salty swing of “If I Was Your Lover” and the grinning “Time Will Pass You By”." Damian Vo (talk) 04:58, 7 March 2021 (UTC)

Artwork and release

• Retitle to Artwork and title

Oops! Damian Vo (talk) 05:05, 7 March 2021 (UTC)

• Img looks good!
• "shot the album's artwork," → "shot the artwork for Kylie Minogue,"
• "lasted for seven hours" → "lasted for around six or seven hours" per the source
• Target androgynous to Androgyny
• [43] should be at the end of the para rather than the last two sentences, but keep in the other areas due to the different refs being used
• ""delightful" adding the album" → ""delightful", adding Kylie Minogue"
• "and that the cover is" → "further writing that the cover is"
• "felt the cover reflects" → "feel the cover reflects"
• "which they compared" → "which they compare"
• "commented that Minogue's image" → "comments that Minogue's image"
• "Smith felt the simple title" → "Smith feels the simple title"

All done. Damian Vo (talk) 05:05, 7 March 2021 (UTC)

Release and promotion

• Img looks good!
• "and European countries by" → "and other European countries by"
• "and in Australia" → "and in Australia simultaneously" to be specific
• "on 21 October 1994 with" → "on 21 October 1994 by the former of the two labels with"
• Wikilink bonus tracks per MOS:LINK2SECT
• Remove comma after the brackets
• Introduce Enjoy Yourself as being her second studio album
• "and Geffen Records dropped" → "with Geffen Records dropping"
• Target BMG to Bertelsmann Music Group
• [59][60] should solely be at the end of the para together, as this pair is used for the last two sentences
• "including Minogue's album, which was scheduled in" → "including the album, which was scheduled for"
• "It was re-released in Australia" → "Kylie Minogue was re-released in Australia" since this is a new para
• "B-sides, and a" → "B-sides and a" with the target
• "unreleased track titled" → "unreleased track, titled"
• Wikilink reissued
• Target vinyl to Phonograph record
• "as white vinyl" → "as a white vinyl"
• "Kylie Minogue appears on" → "Kylie Minogue appear on"
• "while Minogue's recorded there." → "while Minogue recorded there."
• [70][57] put in numerical order
• "Debbie Harry-theme photoshoot" → "Debbie Harry-themed photoshoot"
• New York Factory → the Factory studio
• [57] should be only at the end of the para instead of the last two sentences, as it backs both up (keep in other areas though)
• Remove wikilink on coffee table book

All done. Damian Vo (talk) 05:40, 7 March 2021 (UTC)

Singles

• Wikilink lead single on the img text, plus a second full-stop is needed
• "Her cover of "Nothing Can Stop Us" and "If You Don't Love Me" and" → "Her covers of "Nothing Can Stop Us" and "If You Don't Love Me", alongside"
• Remove target on B-side
• "Farley and Heller (billed as Fire Island) featured" → "Fire Island featured"
• Wikilink music video
• "and reaching number 10 in France and number 39 on the US Billboard Dance Club Songs chart." → "while reaching numbers 10 and 39 in France and on the US Billboard Dance Club Songs chart, respectively."
• Correct name the Australia chart the ARIA Singles Chart
• [29][8][9] put in numerical order
• Remove comma after film
• "reached number eleven in" → "narrowly missed the top 10, reached number 11 in both" per MOS:NUM
• Neither of the first two sentences of the last para are backed up by [13]

From the source: Whispers of an attempted U.S. breach with “If I Was Your Lover” did not come to fruition. Minogue began to consider “Time Will Pass You By” as her concluding single..."

• ""Where Is The Feeling?" was planned" → "The song was planned" but why does "The" start with capitalisation here but not elsewhere?
• The last sentence is not backed up by ref 13; I just did some research and saw that page 2 sources it though, so you can add a citation for that here and maybe for the other info using a ref name; I don't know since I did not look through it in great detail yet

The site has since merged two pages of the article into one :D Damian Vo (talk) 05:39, 7 March 2021 (UTC)

Critical reception

• Retitle to Reception, as there is a list of awards at the end of the section
• "received generally positive reviews from music critics." → "was met with generally positive reviews from music critics." with the target
• [33][17] put in numerical order
• "off with ease."" → "off with ease"." per MOS:QUOTE
• "classy", and "remarkably" → "classy" and "remarkably"
• A number of these are reviews not available on online pages; should some be in the present tense, as I'm not entirely sure honestly?

I used the past tense for all the reviews, same as two other articles that you previously reviewed (Rhythm of Love, Let's Get to It). Damian Vo (talk) 05:55, 7 March 2021 (UTC)

• Remove target on Classic Pop
• "previous albums, and concluded" → "previous albums and concluded"
• "found the recording" → "found the album"
• Mention Jonathan Bernstein of Spin by name
• "mid-tempo material was the" → "mid-tempo material is the"
• Cite page 2 for [13] yet again; plus the Madonna parts are mostly not sourced

The site has already merged two pages into one :D Damian Vo (talk) 05:55, 7 March 2021 (UTC)

• "Harrison concluded the records" → "Harrison concluded that the records"
• Make the ARIA Music Awards a separate para, as this is fine when there is not enough content to start a sub-section
• "for "Confide In Me", and" → "for "Confide In Me" and"

All done. Damian Vo (talk) 05:55, 7 March 2021 (UTC)

Commercial performance

• Does the PopMatters source really back up the album receiving moderate success?
• "her fifth top-ten entry." → "her fifth top-10 entry on the UK Albums Chart." per MOS:NUM, with the wikilink
• [91][8] put in numerical order
• "It fell to number thirteen the following week, and" → "It fell to number 13 the following week and"
• Add BPI in brackets for the certification body
• "certified it gold within a month of its release" → "certified Kylie Minogue gold within a month of the album's release"
• Mention that it sold those copies in the UK
• "on the UK Albums Chart, and" → "on the UK Albums Chart and"
• "the album had previously peaked" → "Kylie Minogue had previously peaked"
• "spent 11 weeks on the chart." → "spent 11 weeks on the ARIA Albums chart."
• "the eighty-fourth best-selling album of the year" → "the 84th best-selling album of 1994"
• Add ARIA in brackets for the certification body
• Mention that it sold those copies in Australia
• "the album peaked at" → "Kylie Minogue peaked at"
• [102][53] put in numerical order

All done. Damian Vo (talk) 06:03, 7 March 2021 (UTC)

Track listing

• [28][38] put in numerical order

Done. Damian Vo (talk) 06:09, 7 March 2021 (UTC)

Personnel

• Target Tim Bran to Dreadzone

Done. Damian Vo (talk) 06:10, 7 March 2021 (UTC)

Charts

• Good

Certifications and sales

• Good

Release history

• Maybe add an edition col since there were a number of different ones?

I think it may be unnecessary. The only different editions are the standard and special (in 2003), since the re-releases are all the same. Regional ones are already reflected by the "region" col. Damian Vo (talk) 06:08, 7 March 2021 (UTC)

See also

• Good

References

• Copyvio score looks fairly good at 25.9%

Footnotes

• Top job with the archiving wherever possible!
• Regarding my comments about ref 13, it is obvious that page 2 is being used as a source at points so either add that as a separate ref or use an appropriate parameter for specifying the two pages of this source
• Cite Blogcritics as publisher instead for ref 14
• WP:OVERLINK of The Guardian on ref 23
• WP:OVERLINK of Idolator on refs 30 and 46
• WP:OVERLINK of Billboard on ref 37
• WP:OVERLINK of PopMatters on ref 40
• WP:OVERLINK of Deconstruction on refs 54 and 55
• WP:OVERLINK of Official Charts Company on ref 66
• Cite Junkee as publisher instead for ref 75

All done. Damian Vo (talk) 06:16, 7 March 2021 (UTC)

Sources

• Good; don't think overlink applies here since they are not numerically sorted like refs

External links

• Good

Final comments and verdict

•  On hold until all of the issues are fixed; that review took a while but was definitely worth it! --K. Peake 20:40, 6 March 2021 (UTC)

I believe I have addressed all your comments above. Thanks again for reviewing yet another lengthy article of mine with such detailed comments and dedication. Damian Vo (talk) 06:20, 7 March 2021 (UTC)

Damian Vo ✓ Pass now, I too am appreciative of you for your responses always being so timely and accurate! --K. Peake 11:44, 7 March 2021 (UTC)