Talk:Kurt Wallander

First comment

Kurt Wallander har apperared outside the regular Wallander books and film productions. I thought this should be mentioned. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.203.182.109 (talk) 18:51, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

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BetacommandBot (talk) 04:59, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

Moves?

This is a bit confusing.
The article on the Swedish TV series, with Krister Henriksson in the role of Kurt Wallander, is at Wallander (film series); the film series, with Rolf Lassgård, which ought to have it's own article, doesn't have one: and the English language TV series (Kenneth Branagh) is occupying Wallander (TV series).
If there are no objections, I’d like to move these around.

• Kenneth Branagh's series should be at Wallander (English language TV series)
• Krister Henriksen's should be at Wallander (TV series)
• And the Rolf Lassgard films should have an article on themselves, at Wallander (film series).

Any thoughts? Swanny18 (talk) 19:40, 12 December 2009 (UTC)

I agree that the Lassgard series needs it's own article. However, the Henriksson series should be at Mankell's Wallander (that is the overall banner title of the series), leaving the Lassgard series at "(film series)". The Branagh series should stay where it is, as is the only series that is strictly made for television (Lassgard's is a mixture of TV miniseries, theatrical films and TV movies and the Henriksson series is mostly DVD movies with a couple of theatrical releases thrown in). Additionally, there are aesthetic matters to consider; "(English language TV series)" just looks weird! Bradley0110 (talk) 18:24, 15 January 2010 (UTC)

I've split the Lassgard and Henriksson articles now. Bradley0110 (talk) 18:32, 15 January 2010 (UTC)

Well, no: I’ve already questioned the title “Mankell’s Wallander” here. What is its provenance? Have you made it up? And it’s no less weird than “English Language TV series” in any event.

And IMDb lists the Henriksson programmes as a TV series [1]; what do you have that says they weren’t? Swanny18 (talk) 19:02, 16 January 2010 (UTC)

I also agree. The title “Mankell’s Wallander” is unlikely to make searching by the casual visitor easy and in any case is out of line with WP naming conventions. I would recommend, as a framework for reaching a speedy solution, which is also compatible with WP guidelines, a referral to both Wikipedia:Naming conventions (television) and its sister guidance Wikipedia:Naming conventions (films). These projects have established clear conventions for dealing with production titles where there are both films and TV series, where there are foreign language productions and where these derive from books and where the title of the production is also the name of the lead character (perhaps not an issue here). Tmol42 (talk) 20:38, 16 January 2010 (UTC)

Am I correct in assuming we are in agreement that the Lassgard and the Hendriksson series should be on separate pages, but are disagreeing about the titles? And that the Lassgard films are a Film series? If we are OK on those, maybe we can go from there. Swanny18 (talk) 19:26, 17 January 2010 (UTC)

This discussion seems to have petered out a bit.

So if we are using Naming Conventions, NC(films) has “For articles on a series of films, the title of the article should be "Series name (film series)" ", so Wallander (film series) should be OK for the Lassgard films.

And NC(television) would cover Wallander (TV series). In instances where “there are two or more television productions of the same name”, additional disambiguation suggests using country of broadcast, year of release, or network.

So we could use "Swedish TV series", "2005 TV series" or "SVT TV series" for the Henriksonn series', and "British TV series", '"2008 TV series" or "BBC TV series" for Branagh's.

As the most obvious difference between the two is that one is in Swedish and the other in English, I’m inclined to think using the date is less informative than using nationality or maybe the network as the identifier. The Swedish series should have precedence, but it's probably less partisan to differentiate both than to do just the Branagh series.

Any thoughts? Or if there are no objections I'll get on with that over the next few days. Swanny18 (talk) 21:53, 26 January 2010 (UTC)

I would strongly favour using "Swedish" and "British" as identifiers as per your reasoning, Swanny. Also worth waiting a bit to gather some concensus and avoid having to backtrack.Tmol42 (talk) 22:25, 26 January 2010 (UTC)

I must say that I would favour the "Film series", "TV series" and "British TV series" solution, since the British one is obviously both the late arrival and the translation of an original. Stijndon (talk) 17:11, 27 January 2010 (UTC)

(outdent)OK, then if there are no objections I'll get that done in the next day or so. Swanny18 (talk) 20:07, 3 February 2010 (UTC)

OK, done. The Henriksson series is at Wallander (Swedish TV series), the Branagh series is at Wallander (British TV series), and Wallander (TV series) is a disambiguation. I reckoned the edit history would be too weird doing it the other way, apart from anything else. The Lassgard films are all that's at Wallander (film series) now. Swanny18 (talk) 20:13, 8 February 2010 (UTC)

Wallander's Alzheimers

That Wallander begins to suffer from Alzheimers disease is a feature of the final book: "Den orolige mannen". In the book he suffers from memory lapses and the end of the book makes it clear that he goes on to develop the full blown disease. I added a short mention of this to the fictional biography of Wallander. It was, however, reverted by Tmol42 who suggested that I was referring to Wallander's father, who also suffered from this illness. However, this isn't the case. The book (which is the final one in the series) is very clear and unambiguous on this point. Phys123 (talk) 19:00, 10 January 2010 (UTC)

Swedish pronunciation: [valˈlanːdər]

A lengthened consonant 'n'?
Should this be Swedish pronunciation: [valˈlaːndər]?
Varlaam (talk) 05:31, 14 August 2011 (UTC)

Novel series

Can someone create an article on the novel series? Wallander (novel series) or Kurt Wallander (novel series) would be good to have, atleast as redirects to this article, but hopefully a full article. -- 65.92.180.137 (talk) 00:50, 12 March 2013 (UTC)

I think the novel with Swedish title "Handen" (2013) is the same short story "Händelse om hösten"/"Het Graf" (2004). — Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.113.41.77 (talk) 16:59, 18 January 2014 (UTC)

Franchise article

This article should be split into two, one being the Kurt Wallander (franchise) or Wallander (franchise) article, and the other being the pure fictional character article Kurt Wallander (character) or Kurt Wallander. -- 65.92.180.137 (talk) 00:57, 12 March 2013 (UTC)

No franchising is going on here. There are a number of novels which have been made into films/TV episodes. This article is about the character and yes it would be good to have an article about the original books. Then you would have all the Wallander articles anyone could possibly want! Sussexonian (talk) 21:41, 15 June 2013 (UTC)

2014 series

Is completely missing. Krister Hendriksen starred in four more ( final?) episodes. 86.159.192.116 (talk) 23:44, 7 June 2014 (UTC)

2014 series

Is completely missing. Krister Hendriksen starred in four more ( final?) episodes. 86.159.192.116 (talk) 23:44, 7 June 2014 (UTC)

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