Talk:Kuching/Archive 2

Education

Both of Universiti Malaysia Sarawak's campuses are actually located in Samarahan District, not Kuching. Samarahan District is also home to a branch campus of Universiti Teknologi MARA (UITM), Malaysia's largest government university by student numbers. The section also fails to mention notable schools and private colleges, nor does it mention the historical background of education in Kuching. I will update this when I have more time. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Beachdayak (talk • contribs) 16:41, 17 March 2010 (UTC)

I've updated the content in the Education section. About the total enrollment in secondary and primary schools, I got so tired of adding up the numbers in the stats so I stopped at 30,000. I'll resume counting and update the figure later.

I also welcome your initiative to write up about education history in Kuching. Please make sure it's properly cited. I suggest you first put a History of Education in Kuching subsection above the Higher / Tertiary education subsection until it's big enough to have its own page.CoolCityCat (talk) 20:25, 6 May 2010 (UTC)

Article context

Please refer to the article specific to the City of Kuching only.

There is a difference between Kuching City, Kuching District and Kuching Division in terms of jurisdiction. My advice to all Wikipedians editing this article, please exercise content regulation when posting. Any information which is not verifiable will be removed. Any information which is more relevant to Kuching as an administrative district will be moved to the Kuching District article. Any information which is more relevant to Kuching as an administrative division will be moved to the Kuching Division article. All material regarding the Padawan Municipal Council (Majlis Perbandaran Padawan - MPP) will be moved from Kuching to Padawan municipality. I'm currently working on it and inviting others to help out. Thank You. CoolCityCat (talk) 11:00, 27 April 2010 (UTC)

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2010 Census population

The populations for the City and "Greater Kuching" shown in this article are wildly excessive. The 2010 Census of Malaysia enumerated a total population of 593,671 for the entire Kuching District (including the rural parts of the District). Rif Winfield (talk) 22:52, 18 September 2011 (UTC)

Seattle as sister city

Despite the linked article's claim, Kuching is not shown as a sister city on Seattle's official list. A better source should be found for this claim, or it should be removed. Ibadibam (talk) 01:09, 14 November 2013 (UTC)

Ethnicity section POV

The ethnicity section makes claims not supported in sources:

Claim:

A sizeable of non-citizen are mostly coming from Indonesia because of the state proximity with Kalimantan.

Cited source:

Although the problem of illegal immigrants on Sarawak is not extensive, the authorities are monitoring the situation...Because of the vast common border with Kalimantan, Indonesia, it has been almost impossible to prevent illegal immigrants from entering the State through various jungle routes.

The claim is that a fairly large number of non-citizens (legal and illegal) come from Indonesia. But the cited source gives no info on the entry routes of legal immigrants, it only addresses illegal immigrants. Furthermore, it does not claim that the Indonesia entry route is where most (illegal) immigrants come from.

Claim:

Most of them consist of migrant workers but majority has contribute on the increasing of crime rate in the city.
Cited source:

The illegal Indonesian presence has been held responsible for escalating crime and other social ills since the late 1990s.

Again the claim seems to include both legal and illegal immigrants, but the cited source only refers to illegal immigrants (specifically Indonesians). Furthermore, the source states that this group "has been held responsible" for rising crime - it does not state they in fact were responsible or contributed to it. The author's careful wording likely stems from the awareness that the immigration issue is often used for political purposes. In fact, the source later states that in Australia The government had undoubtedly exaggerated the [asylum-seeker] issue for domestic political purposes.

Claim:

Today, the city have become a haven for expatriates and attract those from the Western countries.

Cited source:

Although the cited source is titled "A haven for expats", it never claims that Kuching has become such a haven. It is essentially an advertisement, where the Sarawak Tourism Federation president touts all that Kuching has to offer retiring expats. Furthermore, the source never singles out "Western countries", just pitches towards "foreigners" and mentions The euros, pounds, yens and US dollars, as well as other major currencies, will stretch a long way in Kuching.

Moreover, although the immigration claims are made in the present tense, as if referring to the current state, the sources are quite old: 1986 and 2002! Digging up old sources to back up unsupported claims targeting a specific group hints at zeal to push a POV. Cleanup is needed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Zahzuhzaz (talk • contribs)